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Holidaymaker flies aircraft to his holiday destination.

Old 4th Sep 2019, 18:34
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Holidaymaker flies aircraft to his holiday destination.

It's OK, it was all legal.

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-04/...pilot-missing/

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Old 4th Sep 2019, 18:41
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Easyjet pilot pilots Easyjet aircraft. Not such a great headline.
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 18:49
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And who flew it back then?
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 19:04
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And who flew it back then?
He wasn't bothered. He was probably straight down the bar drinking his day off payment
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 19:10
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Did it one day as well, didnít feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 19:42
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Did it one day as well, didnít feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...
Disagree. Pax should be kept in the loop, plus there's a guy up front in jeans. Just say it as it is. Not all good things are driven by ego. Good for him, plus he got to fly his family on hols.
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 20:02
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Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
At least outside the Cockpit ,,,,,,,
Then again DenimAir solved that problem,,,,
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Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)
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Just give me a reference

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I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)
Me too - I can't think if any reference which comes to mind, except by way of a reference in a company manual, which can easily be set aside in such a case as given.
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 20:56
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Me too - I can't think if any reference which comes to mind, except by way of a reference in a company manual, which can easily be set aside in such a case as given.
In fact, I believe most large U.S. airlines have a procedure in the operations manual allowing operation of the aircraft without the proper uniform. You don't want a plane parked because someone's suitcase is stolen overseas. You are supposed to get an authorization message from the ops department. Or, so they tell me. I've certainly left my uniform in the closet of an international hotel on a trip that alternated operating legs and deadheads in civilian clothes.

There are similar procedures for operating with faxed or emailed copies of licenses and medicals if the originals are lost or stolen downline although this may only apply to domestic operations.

A United pilot showed up for a flight in civvies a couple of years ago:

United Airlines replaced a pilot before takeoff on Saturday after she boarded in civilian clothes and told passengers over the intercom that both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were liars and that she was getting a divorce, witnesses said. The airline on Sunday declined to identify the pilot or comment beyond a previous statement apologizing to customers, many of whom left the plane out of concern for their safety.

The flight from Austin, Texas, to San Francisco took off with a new pilot about 90 minutes late, passengers said.

“She shows up dressed like a civilian and asked us to take a vote to see whether we should have her change into her uniform or fly as is,” passenger Pam O’Neal told KPIX television upon landing in San Francisco.

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Old 4th Sep 2019, 21:03
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Originally Posted by akindofmagic View Post
I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)
This sparked my interest and I researched a little. This is an interesting read: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ional_clothing

TL;DR: be careful what you are wearing in terms of flammability.

In this case, it really doesn't matter as the study found that air crew uniforms are typically made of flammable materials, just as bad as civilian clothing.
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Old 4th Sep 2019, 22:49
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I must be in the minority, I donít take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.
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Originally Posted by ezydriver View Post
I must be in the minority, I donít take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.
Given the number of Easyjet flights that get cancelled on a daily basis due to lack of crew, Iíd say itís the only way to increase your chances of actually getting to where you want to go on that day, and not four days later.



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Did it one day as well, didnít feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...
This. Unfortunately the days of the Ďsilent professionalí are probably behind us.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 03:00
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Originally Posted by ezydriver View Post
I must be in the minority, I donít take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.
I don't know where you keep yours but in the U.S. most guys keep their license in their wallet. So it goes to the gym, pool, shopping, dinner, movies, holiday, sporting events, etc, etc.
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Years ago I saw a coworker in slacks, casual shoes, a sport polo shirt at an international destination. "On vacation?" "No, I'm working. They asked 'how quickly can you get to the airport?" I said with my uniform or as I'm dressed right now? They asked what I was wearing and said 'good enough.' So here I am."
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Originally Posted by misd-agin View Post
I don't know where you keep yours but in the U.S. most guys keep their license in their wallet. So it goes to the gym, pool, shopping, dinner, movies, holiday, sporting events, etc, etc.
EASA licences aren't on little photocards, they are in a passport sized wallet (albeit 5 times as thick!) and is simply 2 A4 pages (license and medical) with the required info on and the odd TREs signature. There is no photograph. How are american licenses signed? Do you have a counterpart?

Mine never leaves my flight case except from the occasioanl sim revalidation or medical, although I generally take one of my company IDs with me on holiday. I think a photocard license in Europe would be sensible (minus Orville and Wilbur, Frank Whittle perhaps?). My best friend is a train driver and his train license (UK) looks identical to an EU driving license, therefore arranged in a very familiar format.

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Ok, I am just referring to old CAA Cpt BjÝrn The Calibrator as I show up in Oslo for 10 day In Greenland via CPH and Vagar in proper warm Army Field Jacket and Jeans.
Made me buy black pants at the Main terminal.
Felt like an idiot not knowing about this. After all we calibrate half of North Norway that winter looking like some ragtag bush ops.
International flights different he said. Didnt argue with BjÝrn , he was CAA and he was Boss. Great chap.
Anyway
This was back in 1994, things has changed Eh.
So standby duty: Speedo at the beech ! " How quick can you be at the airport?"
There is a Youtube clip you will struggle to erase !

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Originally Posted by BluSdUp View Post
Ok, I am just referring to old CAA Cpt BjÝrn The Calibrator as I show up in Oslo for 10 day In Greenland via CPH and Vagar in proper warm Army Field Jacket and Jeans.
Made me buy black pants at the Main terminal.
Felt like an idiot not knowing about this. After all we calibrate half of North Norway that winter looking like some ragtag bush ops.
International flights different he said. Didnt argue with BjÝrn , he was CAA and he was Boss. Great chap.
Anyway
This was back in 1994, things has changed Eh.
So standby duty: Speedo at the beech ! " How quick can you be at the airport?"
There is a Youtube clip you will struggle to erase !

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I donít believe anyone wears speedos at a norwegian beach.....

Iíd not want to make a song and dance about it. Doesnít actually reflect that well on the company that they couldnít find a pilot, dressed like a pilot, to be the pilot .

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Old 5th Sep 2019, 05:16
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I have reservations about him identifying his family as passengers. In any problems in the cabin they would be valuable hostages/targets. He did not have to point them out. No problems, this time.
The Dft did at one time briefly consider banning crew relatives in the cabin.
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Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
i think the rules vary. One of my previous employers only required uniforms for revenue fights. I one recovered a 747 from maintenance wearing jeans and a t shirt. It was an international flight. However, where I work now, the rule is that if you’re on the GD, you have to be in uniform to clear immigration.
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