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Super VC-10 4th Sep 2019 18:34

Holidaymaker flies aircraft to his holiday destination.
 
It's OK, it was all legal.

https://www.itv.com/news/2019-09-04/...pilot-missing/

Ben_S 4th Sep 2019 18:41

Easyjet pilot pilots Easyjet aircraft. Not such a great headline.

Dufo 4th Sep 2019 18:49

And who flew it back then?

Flying Wild 4th Sep 2019 19:04


Originally Posted by Dufo (Post 10561884)
And who flew it back then?

He wasn't bothered. He was probably straight down the bar drinking his day off payment :D

sarah737 4th Sep 2019 19:10

Did it one day as well, didn’t feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...

WindSheer 4th Sep 2019 19:42


Originally Posted by sarah737 (Post 10561895)
Did it one day as well, didn’t feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...

Disagree. Pax should be kept in the loop, plus there's a guy up front in jeans. Just say it as it is. Not all good things are driven by ego. Good for him, plus he got to fly his family on hols.

BluSdUp 4th Sep 2019 20:02

Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
At least outside the Cockpit ,,,,,,,
Then again DenimAir solved that problem,,,,

akindofmagic 4th Sep 2019 20:19


Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)

Weapons Grade 4th Sep 2019 20:24

Just give me a reference
 

Originally Posted by akindofmagic (Post 10561943)
I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)

Me too - I can't think if any reference which comes to mind, except by way of a reference in a company manual, which can easily be set aside in such a case as given.

Airbubba 4th Sep 2019 20:56


Originally Posted by Weapons Grade (Post 10561949)
Me too - I can't think if any reference which comes to mind, except by way of a reference in a company manual, which can easily be set aside in such a case as given.

In fact, I believe most large U.S. airlines have a procedure in the operations manual allowing operation of the aircraft without the proper uniform. You don't want a plane parked because someone's suitcase is stolen overseas. You are supposed to get an authorization message from the ops department. Or, so they tell me. ;) I've certainly left my uniform in the closet of an international hotel on a trip that alternated operating legs and deadheads in civilian clothes.

There are similar procedures for operating with faxed or emailed copies of licenses and medicals if the originals are lost or stolen downline although this may only apply to domestic operations.

A United pilot showed up for a flight in civvies a couple of years ago:


United Airlines replaced a pilot before takeoff on Saturday after she boarded in civilian clothes and told passengers over the intercom that both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were liars and that she was getting a divorce, witnesses said. The airline on Sunday declined to identify the pilot or comment beyond a previous statement apologizing to customers, many of whom left the plane out of concern for their safety.

The flight from Austin, Texas, to San Francisco took off with a new pilot about 90 minutes late, passengers said.

“She shows up dressed like a civilian and asked us to take a vote to see whether we should have her change into her uniform or fly as is,” passenger Pam O’Neal told KPIX television upon landing in San Francisco.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN15R0RC

ph-sbe 4th Sep 2019 21:03


Originally Posted by akindofmagic (Post 10561943)
I'd love to know your reference for this. (Hint: there isn't one)

This sparked my interest and I researched a little. This is an interesting read: https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ional_clothing

TL;DR: be careful what you are wearing in terms of flammability.

In this case, it really doesn't matter as the study found that air crew uniforms are typically made of flammable materials, just as bad as civilian clothing.

PPRuNeUser0178 4th Sep 2019 22:49

I must be in the minority, I don’t take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.

Vokes55 5th Sep 2019 00:02


Originally Posted by ezydriver (Post 10562035)
I must be in the minority, I don’t take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.

Given the number of Easyjet flights that get cancelled on a daily basis due to lack of crew, I’d say it’s the only way to increase your chances of actually getting to where you want to go on that day, and not four days later.




Originally Posted by sarah737 (Post 10561895)
Did it one day as well, didn’t feel need to play stand up comedian in front of the passengers though.
Kept the cockpit door closed, nobody knew...

This. Unfortunately the days of the ‘silent professional’ are probably behind us.

misd-agin 5th Sep 2019 03:00


Originally Posted by ezydriver (Post 10562035)
I must be in the minority, I don’t take my licence with
me when I go on holiday.

I don't know where you keep yours but in the U.S. most guys keep their license in their wallet. So it goes to the gym, pool, shopping, dinner, movies, holiday, sporting events, etc, etc.

misd-agin 5th Sep 2019 03:03

Years ago I saw a coworker in slacks, casual shoes, a sport polo shirt at an international destination. "On vacation?" "No, I'm working. They asked 'how quickly can you get to the airport?" I said with my uniform or as I'm dressed right now? They asked what I was wearing and said 'good enough.' So here I am."

giggitygiggity 5th Sep 2019 03:47

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Originally Posted by misd-agin (Post 10562109)
I don't know where you keep yours but in the U.S. most guys keep their license in their wallet. So it goes to the gym, pool, shopping, dinner, movies, holiday, sporting events, etc, etc.

EASA licences aren't on little photocards, they are in a passport sized wallet (albeit 5 times as thick!) and is simply 2 A4 pages (license and medical) with the required info on and the odd TREs signature. There is no photograph. How are american licenses signed? Do you have a counterpart?

Mine never leaves my flight case except from the occasioanl sim revalidation or medical, although I generally take one of my company IDs with me on holiday. I think a photocard license in Europe would be sensible (minus Orville and Wilbur, Frank Whittle perhaps?). My best friend is a train driver and his train license (UK) looks identical to an EU driving license, therefore arranged in a very familiar format.

Not my photo...

BluSdUp 5th Sep 2019 04:50

Ok, I am just referring to old CAA Cpt Bjørn The Calibrator as I show up in Oslo for 10 day In Greenland via CPH and Vagar in proper warm Army Field Jacket and Jeans.
Made me buy black pants at the Main terminal.
Felt like an idiot not knowing about this. After all we calibrate half of North Norway that winter looking like some ragtag bush ops.
International flights different he said. Didnt argue with Bjørn , he was CAA and he was Boss. Great chap.
Anyway
This was back in 1994, things has changed Eh.
So standby duty: Speedo at the beech ! " How quick can you be at the airport?"
There is a Youtube clip you will struggle to erase !

Peace and love
Cpt B

Meester proach 5th Sep 2019 04:56


Originally Posted by BluSdUp (Post 10562132)
Ok, I am just referring to old CAA Cpt Bjørn The Calibrator as I show up in Oslo for 10 day In Greenland via CPH and Vagar in proper warm Army Field Jacket and Jeans.
Made me buy black pants at the Main terminal.
Felt like an idiot not knowing about this. After all we calibrate half of North Norway that winter looking like some ragtag bush ops.
International flights different he said. Didnt argue with Bjørn , he was CAA and he was Boss. Great chap.
Anyway
This was back in 1994, things has changed Eh.
So standby duty: Speedo at the beech ! " How quick can you be at the airport?"
There is a Youtube clip you will struggle to erase !

Peace and love
Cpt B

I don’t believe anyone wears speedos at a norwegian beach.....

I’d not want to make a song and dance about it. Doesn’t actually reflect that well on the company that they couldn’t find a pilot, dressed like a pilot, to be the pilot .


beardy 5th Sep 2019 05:16

I have reservations about him identifying his family as passengers. In any problems in the cabin they would be valuable hostages/targets. He did not have to point them out. No problems, this time.
The Dft did at one time briefly consider banning crew relatives in the cabin.

Dan Winterland 5th Sep 2019 07:39



Except for the fact that on International flights You have to wear a uniform.
i think the rules vary. One of my previous employers only required uniforms for revenue fights. I one recovered a 747 from maintenance wearing jeans and a t shirt. It was an international flight. However, where I work now, the rule is that if you’re on the GD, you have to be in uniform to clear immigration.


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