Disruptive Jet2 passenger getting a big bill
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Originally Posted by listria
As a passenger and even more as flight crew there's nothing scarier than being trapped in a restricted space with a potentially violent person. Happened some years ago in a HS 748 over the Pacific and with no way out of the aluminium tube it was very stressful.
Throw the book at her.
Throw the book at her.
Far short of breathalyzing people as the come aboard there is no short answer. Cabin crew who refuse to serve alcohol to someone they suspect has already had too many can in itself trigger "air rage".
Smoking was banned some years ago so maybe it's time to effectively address alcohol consumption.
The lady will get credit for her guilty plea, and her lawyer will likely argue, correctly, that at no point was the aircraft actually endangered (the ANO doesn't require that it has to be for the offence in question to be committed).
I doubt she's going to jail.
I doubt she's going to jail.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
The lady will get credit for her guilty plea, and her lawyer will likely argue, correctly, that at no point was the aircraft actually endangered (the ANO doesn't require that it has to be for the offence in question to be committed).
I doubt she's going to jail.
I doubt she's going to jail.
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Without the various reports I assume the court will be obtaining about the defendant's medical, psychological and social state who can say what effect a particular sentence will have upon her
However, as with the misuse of [email protected], it is important a message goes out from the Court that this behaviour will result in serious consequences and not merely a trip to AA. Otherwise there is no deterrent and CC and passengers will continue to be disrupted, frightened, assaulted and abused by others.
However, as with the misuse of [email protected], it is important a message goes out from the Court that this behaviour will result in serious consequences and not merely a trip to AA. Otherwise there is no deterrent and CC and passengers will continue to be disrupted, frightened, assaulted and abused by others.
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Originally Posted by Nil by mouth
The original sensational headline read "Air rage passenger, 25, who 'stormed cockpit'.
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But she surely has not weathered well for a 25 Y.O.
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
Not sure how you determined that she is petite.
But she surely has not weathered well for a 25 Y.O.
But she surely has not weathered well for a 25 Y.O.
'She was only petite'
Alcoholics do not usually weather well at any age.
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Another account of the sentencing from Sky News.
Chloe Haines jailed after attempting to open plane door midway through Stansted flight
A woman who yelled "I'm going to kill you all" and tried to open the door of a plane midway through a flight has been jailed for two years.
Chloe Haines, 26, was handed the prison sentence at Chelmsford Crown Court on Wednesday following an incident on board a flight from Stansted Airport on 22 June last year.
Two RAF fighter jets were scrambled to meet the Jet2 flight - which was heading to Dalaman, Turkey - and escort it back to the Essex airport.
Haines, who passengers and cabin crew had fought to restrain, was arrested by police when the plane landed.
A court later heard how she "blacked out and didn't really remember what happened" on the flight after mixing alcohol with medication.
Haines, of High Wycombe, had previously admitted at a hearing in December to endangering the safety of an aircraft and assaulting cabin crew member Charley Coombe.
Ms Coombe suffered scratches as she tried to prevent Haines from opening the plane door.Haines' barrister told a court last year his client was a "troubled young person with a number of serious issues".
He said "to her credit" that Haines had "engaged more fully with Alcoholics Anonymous".
Judge Charles Gratwicke said: "Those that are trapped in the confined space of the aircraft will inevitably be distressed, frightened and petrified by the actions of those who in a drunken state endanger their lives.
"For some it will be their worst nightmare come true."
Jet2 calculated that the incident cost them £86,000, the court heard.
The 26-year-old sobs through a court hearing following an incident in which she yelled "I'm going to kill you all".
Wednesday 12 February 2020 15:36, UKA woman who yelled "I'm going to kill you all" and tried to open the door of a plane midway through a flight has been jailed for two years.
Chloe Haines, 26, was handed the prison sentence at Chelmsford Crown Court on Wednesday following an incident on board a flight from Stansted Airport on 22 June last year.
Two RAF fighter jets were scrambled to meet the Jet2 flight - which was heading to Dalaman, Turkey - and escort it back to the Essex airport.
Haines, who passengers and cabin crew had fought to restrain, was arrested by police when the plane landed.
A court later heard how she "blacked out and didn't really remember what happened" on the flight after mixing alcohol with medication.
Haines, of High Wycombe, had previously admitted at a hearing in December to endangering the safety of an aircraft and assaulting cabin crew member Charley Coombe.
Ms Coombe suffered scratches as she tried to prevent Haines from opening the plane door.Haines' barrister told a court last year his client was a "troubled young person with a number of serious issues".
He said "to her credit" that Haines had "engaged more fully with Alcoholics Anonymous".
Judge Charles Gratwicke said: "Those that are trapped in the confined space of the aircraft will inevitably be distressed, frightened and petrified by the actions of those who in a drunken state endanger their lives.
"For some it will be their worst nightmare come true."
Jet2 calculated that the incident cost them £86,000, the court heard.
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Originally Posted by rog747
She did not enter plea's - She's been bailed with a no-fly caveat - She is charged with assault by beating (Common assault, Battery - not ABH it seems) and recklessly endangering an air plane and persons - If she pleads guilty which no doubt her Lawyer will advise, then she may get 2-4 years plus the costs that Jet 2 want.
Originally Posted by rog747
Good - she got 2 years....Has she got to pay Jet2's diversion bill and the fuel for the Typhoon shout?
Given that the lady isn't going to be earning anything for the next 2 years, I don't see that happening.
As for the interception costs, I'm sure they will be allocated to training.
Judge Charles Gratwicke said: "Those that are trapped in the confined space of the aircraft will inevitably be distressed, frightened and petrified by the actions of those who in a drunken state endanger their lives.
I think they’ve mis-spelled the Judges surname.
I think they’ve mis-spelled the Judges surname.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
As for the interception costs, I'm sure they will be allocated to training.
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Why should they be?
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Jet2 have huffed and puffed about sending her a massive bill (I've seen £85K quoted), but they would have to take her to court to get that enforced.
Given that the lady isn't going to be earning anything for the next 2 years, I don't see that happening.
As for the interception costs, I'm sure they will be allocated to training.
Given that the lady isn't going to be earning anything for the next 2 years, I don't see that happening.
As for the interception costs, I'm sure they will be allocated to training.
Originally Posted by Flying Wild
Jet2 won't shy away from making a point and I'm sure they will happily pursue her for the costs incurred. It has been done before.
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Originally Posted by happybiker
Good look to Jet2 with that. The young lady probably has a bank account that is seriously overdrawn.
Originally Posted by Lord Farringdon
Well beardy, because if you applied the same logic to Police enforcement no one usually gets billed by the Police for being arrested and found guilty of a crime.The Police are given a budget to carry out certain defined duties related to the apprehension and prosecution of suspected criminals amongst other things. Similalrly, Defence are given a budget some of which will be related to assisting other agencies when called upon and for this they will be allocated an annual budget. The difference is where someone wastes Police time. This is where they have not committed an offence as such, but their actions have resulted in the unnecessary expense of Police or maybe Defence resources. I don't think our 'lady of the flight' intentionally wasted Defence resources but rather it was Defence that was assisting the Police in the apprehension of someone who is now a criminal.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
The lady will get credit for her guilty plea, and her lawyer will likely argue, correctly, that at no point was the aircraft actually endangered (the ANO doesn't require that it has to be for the offence in question to be committed).
I doubt she's going to jail.
I doubt she's going to jail.
