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BA almost hits the wall!

Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:03
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BA almost hits the wall!

Is this really necessary?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...4678.jpg?w=670
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:06
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I’ve never understood these low approaches. If the runway is that short then maybe we shouldn’t be taking airliners in there?
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:11
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Originally Posted by cappt View Post
There’s only three truths in any newspaper
j) The date
ii) The price
iii) The horoscopes
Everything else is either made up or distorted
In this instance selective use of a telephoto lens!!
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:21
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Video of the Jungle Jet landing in the Sun article:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9509...plane-selfies/
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:23
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur View Post

There’s only three truths in any newspaper
j) The date
ii) The price
iii) The horoscopes
Everything else is either made up or distorted
In this instance selective use of a telephoto lens!!
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Nope, it was way too low 1/2 mile out.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/9509...plane-selfies/
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 22:48
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Originally Posted by The AvgasDinosaur View Post
Everything else is either made up or distorted
In this instance selective use of a telephoto lens!!
Except that the distortion and perspective show that that is clearly a wide-angle lens. Probably iphone = ~28-35mm wide-angle on 35mm film.

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Old 15th Jul 2019, 23:21
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My message to the BA crew is this. Leave the Airshow type or stunt flying to the professionals. Do the job you're paid to do and don't risk the passengers in needless exhibitionism..if indeed, thats what they were upto. Eother that, or they did not have full control of the A/C. Don't know which is the most disconcerting..

Reminds me of the time AF took out the airport boundary fence on approach to St Maarten. Same message to them.

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Old 15th Jul 2019, 23:42
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As the aircraft, an Embraer E190, whizzed past hoards of people with

It's horde not hoard when you're referring to a group of people. Unless you're collecting a collection of people. End of my spelling rant
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 23:46
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Apart from the flying, is there a boundary fence there? You know, the tall one with the spiky stuff on top.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 00:35
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I’m assuming there’s no ILS on this runway ? Non precision approach followed by a visual segment with a short runway ahead soon sorts out the automation managers from the Pilots. Too many people rely on disconnecting the autopilot at the minima with the aircraft perfectly positioned for landing, drift angle and descent rate already set for them.

Taking away the guidance and asking some people to judge it by eye and seat of the pants seems to be asking too much. Definitely tea and biscuits with the fleet manager followed by a simulator session or two.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 00:54
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
Except that the distortion and perspective show that that is clearly a wide-angle lens. Probably iphone = ~28-35mm wide-angle on 35mm film.

The plane does look a bit like a banana. It still looks too low.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 00:58
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There’s only three truths in any newspaper j) The date ii) The price iii) The horosco

There's nothing humble about your opinion Avgas Dinosaur. If you have never tried to report and write a newspaper story you have no right to criticize. If you ask three witnesses to a traffic accident you will get three different versions. A reporter's job is to try to figure out the truth from those different versions and then write it in an interesting fashion so the average reader with a 6th grade education can understand. I write as someone who was a reporter for 10+ years and an editor for 33 years covering everything from traffic accidents to murders to U.S. Presidential elections to finance and investments. Reporters have to have some knowledge about many topics, but rely on experts for detailed information, and they try hard to convey that information accurately. There good reporters and poor reporters, just as I suspect there are good pilots and poor pilots, and good editors and poor editors, but most are trying to do a job that is far more difficult than it appears to the best of their ability.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 01:06
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The shadow appears almost directly beneath the plane -- shifted forward a small fraction of the fuselage length. Judging by the other shadows in the picture, that means its pretty low. Assuming no Photoshop, of course.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 01:43
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That is low throughout, and touchdown occurs at the threshold markings, before the numbers.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 01:53
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I really don't think this is a Photoshop job as there are three different video views of the same landing and they all coordinate as to the people on the wall. Pretty low, another two feet and some heads would be missing.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 02:01
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I really don't think this is a Photoshop job as there are three different video views of the same landing and they all coordinate as to the people on the wall. Pretty low, another two feet and some heads would be missing.
Two tyre diameters above the head of the lady in the green pants. Three diameters above the Armco barrier.

The wire mesh security fence appears to be in a ditch and less than 2 metres high
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 03:32
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Too low, too close.

I fell sorry for the guy because if you go wrong for the first time it is hard to see how far you'd actually trespassed.

Hence the reason some on this forum advocate there's no such thing as a short landing technique. Learn to make your normal landing not long, and then for all accounts do operate on the low and tight side of the margin band.

That way you keep a room for errors, those guys did not. Thankfully it bit only them, not the passengers or the airframe.

Wrong intentions, and even the masterful get caught: https://www.military.com/video/milit.../1913142753001
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 04:38
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That is seriously low on profile in all of the videos, not far off a smoking wreck at the end. Ironically a low flat approach like his probably lengthens your landing distance.
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 05:35
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Hahahah.."Telephoto lens".."Distortion"...WALOB!
Anybody who has operated into jungle strips knows what is going on here!
Was the pitch attitude photoshopped too!!!!
Btw,what flavour are the BA biscuits,that come with the tea!
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Old 16th Jul 2019, 06:19
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Hahahah.."Telephoto lens".."Distortion"...WALOB!
Anybody who has operated into jungle strips knows what is going on here!
Was the pitch attitude photoshopped too!!!!
Btw,what flavour are the BA biscuits,that come with the tea!
Wouldn't matter as I am sure there will be a crappy taste left in the mouth after the cuppa.
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