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Old 24th Apr 2019, 17:19
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Easyjet Emergency

At 1445 today a Easyjet A320 took off from Liverpool bound for Lanzarote. It immediately went into a three circuit holding pattern just west of Chester and then dived into Manchester landing downwind against the traffic pattern.

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Old 24th Apr 2019, 17:41
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Squawked 7700.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:00
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Certainly ain't here !! El G.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:28
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Ppruners, please this is not a spotters forum. Give us some facts, substantiated speculation, then it might be news or rumour.
If you want ideas then post in the questions or spotters area.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:39
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Originally Posted by bar none View Post
At 1445 today a Easyjet A320 took off from Liverpool bound for Lanzarote. It immediately went into a three circuit holding pattern just west of Chester and then dived into Manchester landing downwind against the traffic pattern.

Any ideas ?
Please define "dived" in FPM

sounds like a ho-hum event
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:39
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Perhaps the clue to their actions are defined by two simple statements -a transponder code of 7700 which will immediately give them priority handling by all ATC units as that gave them some time to consider their actions to get the best result and Manchester giving them clearance to land the way they did -points to correct use of the 7700 transponder code to get them straight into the most appropriate airfield to handle their emergency ---system worked as it should ---the why is a different question ---
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:58
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Originally Posted by Paul852 View Post
Presumably just to dump an unruly or ill passenger.
With the ARFFS on hand, in case said passenger burst into flames ?



EasyJet flight from Liverpool to Lanzarote makes unscheduled landing at Manchester airport
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:05
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Reported to be a flap issue
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:29
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Flaps issue = Emergency?
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:36
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well its a flight control issue, so i dont see why not, better to be safe than sorry, some aircraft are a pig to land without flap.

Why not be over cautious and then downgrade if needed, as a full emergency you will get full attention, seems like a good idea in my eyes

Also ATC sometimes require you to set 7700 when you have an issue even if you only declared a PAN
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:46
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With the ARFFS on hand, in case said passenger burst into flames ?
These days the controller will often have no option but to call out RFFS regardless of the reported problem.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:52
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If you do not land in a normal config or something allowed under the MEL then it is at the very least a Pan.Having visited Latcc they think it mildly amusing when pilots report they have a small problem because it is usually much more.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 19:53
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Originally Posted by Livesinafield View Post

Also ATC sometimes require you to set 7700 when you have an issue even if you only declared a PAN
Really?

Who is in charge of the airplane?

I'm getting old....
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 20:20
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Originally Posted by gearlever View Post
Really?

Who is in charge of the airplane?

I'm getting old....
So you’d refuse to set 7700 when politely requested by ATC? I’ve had a moderate tech fault requiring a return and again was asked to set 7700, simply for controller workload and so other sectors had an idea that we weren’t going to follow the standard departure flow.

Really not an issue.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 20:23
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To my understanding declearing an emergency (7700) rests solely with the commander.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 20:30
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FFS even if the problem is minor and atc “ask” you to squark 7700 why would you just not do it instead of having a [email protected]##&)g contest about who is in charge, command, the boss etc!
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 20:32
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Originally Posted by simmple View Post
FFS even if the problem is minor and atc “ask” you to squark 7700 why would you just not do it instead of having a [email protected]##&)g contest about who is in charge, command, the boss etc!
I'm afraid you have no clue what declearing an emergency in fact means.....
Oh boy.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 20:59
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If i have a issue, declare a pan and ATC ask me to squawk 7700 im not going to refuse, they are trying to help you, and we don't know whats happening on their end.

I had a flap issue once, declared a Pan and ATC requested I set 7700 and was given full priority to my diversion and a sterile runway, never once used the M word.. sounds great to me
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 21:01
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I'm afraid you have no clue what declearing an emergency in fact means.....
Oh boy.
It's a complex topic and each situation should, ideally, be assessed on its own merits by each party involved. Reality is that - rather obviously - the only person on an aircraft that can 'declare an emergency' or set 770 is a pilot. But nothing stops a controller (or is some cases other people) on the ground initiating a response of some sort, even if the pilot has not done the declaring an emergency thing. And ATC asking for 7700 on the tx'der, as Dct_Mopas points out, may well simply be to to reduce the amount of coordination required. You may feel you are getting old but age does not necessarily bring wisdom......or realisation that the pilot may be in charge of the aircraft but that the aircraft is part of a system in which many others are involved.
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 21:27
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Originally Posted by gearlever View Post
I'm afraid you have no clue what declearing an emergency in fact means.....
Oh boy.
like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, one mans emergency is anothers mild irritation
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