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Old 18th Feb 2019, 19:04
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Back on topic. DHL still recruiting, possibly for EMA.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 07:14
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This thread is about Flybmi closing down. Climate change arguments belong elsewhere.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 10:58
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Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly
Not sure Loganair have the aircraft to just pick the routes up, hopefully it will mean they will take some of Flybmiís aircraft crews and engineers. The fact they operate the Embraer should make it fairly straightforward to achieve this.
They were Ex BMI aircraft to start with!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 12:03
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Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 12:36
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A spokesperson for Loganair said: ĎLoganair and Flybmi, which has unfortunately ceased trading, are two completely separate companies with different booking systems. Due to strict rules around data protection, Loganair is unable to access Flybmiís passenger details or payment information.í

Yet they managed to speak to and recruit the very next day??? I wonder how they got contact details of staff 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 12:37
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Full article here

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02...ments-limited/
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 14:38
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Not sure why so much negativity on Loganair here. They were always due to receive one more of each so it could have been one of those. Additionally itís my understanding that bmi regional leased the aircraft from the parent (as they received cash for them years ago) so AIL is now simply leasing them to Loganair - nothing funny going on there. Given they are in the same group Iím happy that it got moving so quickly, wouldnít want the employees to be left in limbo while waiting for the legals.

i say smart move re staffing, why not? You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...

Suggesting the Loganair directors knew that bmi regional was trading insolvently is quite serious and I highly doubt that to be the case. As far as I can see they are run as autonomous businesses. Much like Dorothy Perkins and Topshop in Arcadia and Iberia and BA in IAG.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 16:29
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People see conspiracies everywhere. It's really quite tiring!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 18:43
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Post #68

. .....You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...
Who suggested that?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:17
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Originally Posted by mikehammer
Who suggested that?
It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:20
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BMI was a small airline, it didn't take long for word to pass round that Loganair were willing to take people on...
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 20:38
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Originally Posted by INKJET
Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.
you say there is no demand early and late, yet I fly BRS-BFS out at 0700 and back at 2145, sometimes later. Thatís a 320 or 319, double or triple daily and competing with services from BHX and EXT as well. If it didnít make money Easy wouldnít fly it. So thatís four sectors plus whatever the aircraft does in between. No point flying Scotland to MAN or BHX as the train is quicker when you account for security and parking and taxis and you can work for 4 hours on the train.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 00:02
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It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.
Thank goodness for interpretation being inadmissible 😀

Apologies accepted. 😉
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 14:41
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 21:00
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Like business air all over again. Just missing the Granite call sign...
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 10:41
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"middle of nowhere" might be nice.
Think and go back to our young dreams of being a pilot.
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 16:59
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That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 17:16
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Originally Posted by red9
That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????
As I seem to remember it, Scotland is still part of the union!
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 00:01
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Originally Posted by red9
That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????

I can hear a pilot talking.. Whom knows sod all about ATA 11. Rebranding airframes costs a small fortune. Bigger than your ego.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 00:27
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Originally Posted by airspeed75
Given the circumstances and almost overnight acquisition of these aircraft and routes I would highly doubt that this is permanent and will be a decal to avoid flying around with flyBMI on the side. They used decals on their leased saab 2000's which were identical so probably had these lying around. You can safely bet that these aircraft will soon be sent to the paint shop properly to have the full Loganair livery on it.
I would agree with your logic.
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