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flyBMI about to fold

Old 17th Feb 2019, 22:27
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Originally Posted by solent View Post
Call me a cynic but, the sister company just happens to be able the next day after FlyBMIís demise to offer some of the routes it used to do.

The sister company over the last few months just happens to take on the E135/E145 type to its AOC and took 2 aircraft plus support from said sister company and are now fully up and running then the owners who own the sister company put FlyBMI down.

This has been in the planning for a while and the poor staff have paid for it with their jobs. Letís hope they all get new jobs as fast as humanly possible.

Really poor from the owners. Good luck all.

I hear there are a lot of the pilots being offered jobs with Loganair (100+) and that induction courses are starting VERY soon for them
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 18:04
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Back on topic. DHL still recruiting, possibly for EMA.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 06:14
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This thread is about Flybmi closing down. Climate change arguments belong elsewhere.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 09:58
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Originally Posted by Icanseeclearly View Post
Not sure Loganair have the aircraft to just pick the routes up, hopefully it will mean they will take some of Flybmiís aircraft crews and engineers. The fact they operate the Embraer should make it fairly straightforward to achieve this.
They were Ex BMI aircraft to start with!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 11:03
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Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 11:36
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A spokesperson for Loganair said: ĎLoganair and Flybmi, which has unfortunately ceased trading, are two completely separate companies with different booking systems. Due to strict rules around data protection, Loganair is unable to access Flybmiís passenger details or payment information.í

Yet they managed to speak to and recruit the very next day??? I wonder how they got contact details of staff 🤔🤔🤔🤔
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 11:37
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Full article here

https://www.which.co.uk/news/2019/02...ments-limited/
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 13:38
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Not sure why so much negativity on Loganair here. They were always due to receive one more of each so it could have been one of those. Additionally itís my understanding that bmi regional leased the aircraft from the parent (as they received cash for them years ago) so AIL is now simply leasing them to Loganair - nothing funny going on there. Given they are in the same group Iím happy that it got moving so quickly, wouldnít want the employees to be left in limbo while waiting for the legals.

i say smart move re staffing, why not? You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...

Suggesting the Loganair directors knew that bmi regional was trading insolvently is quite serious and I highly doubt that to be the case. As far as I can see they are run as autonomous businesses. Much like Dorothy Perkins and Topshop in Arcadia and Iberia and BA in IAG.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 15:29
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People see conspiracies everywhere. It's really quite tiring!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 17:43
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Post #68

. .....You can find a lot of people on LinkedIn and by lifting the phone, no need to be accessing HR records...
Who suggested that?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 18:17
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Originally Posted by mikehammer View Post
Who suggested that?
It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 18:20
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BMI was a small airline, it didn't take long for word to pass round that Loganair were willing to take people on...
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 19:38
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Originally Posted by INKJET View Post
Rumour has it that the ERJ positioned back into Norwich and they had already started the repaint to Logan air colours before midnight, Logan air parent company also owned flybmi.

Likewise two senior flybmi ABZ based trainers started their employment with Logan Air the very next day.

Regional flying is no longer viable in most of the UK, a combination of high APD which they catch on both legs, what demand there is in early and late in the day, meaning two lots of crews doing at best 2 or 3 sectors a day, something that pushes up the cost to amongst the highest in the industry in this country at least.
Sure there is money to be made flying between the likes of EDI LGW/LHR but not on a 50 seater.
you say there is no demand early and late, yet I fly BRS-BFS out at 0700 and back at 2145, sometimes later. Thatís a 320 or 319, double or triple daily and competing with services from BHX and EXT as well. If it didnít make money Easy wouldnít fly it. So thatís four sectors plus whatever the aircraft does in between. No point flying Scotland to MAN or BHX as the train is quicker when you account for security and parking and taxis and you can work for 4 hours on the train.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 23:02
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It was my interpretation of your post actually. I read it as a rhetorical question over Loganair's procurement of staff details. Apologies if I misunderstood.
Thank goodness for interpretation being inadmissible 😀

Apologies accepted. 😉
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 10:06
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Hi all

I am one those ppl who got sacked last weekend. What is making most of us furious is we had to receive the news via the press. 30 min later we got all an email. A lot of [email protected] about brexit, steeping fuel cost and all that. But not 1 single management guy who had the balls to show in public and explain what had happened. Not 1 single thing we heard from them. It started i guess already at least a year ago.

The HQ swap to Logan address, maintenance to Logan, transfer of the aircraft with the least hours and cycles.....again to Logan. 1 day later we got an email saying we could apply with Loganair: with a fixed employment contract or as a contractor. I decided to apply as a contractor because it was giving me the freedom and I simply don't trust the owners anymore. Got very quick a call back but they were already changing their mind. Only offering fixed contract and being based in the middle of nowhere. So I said: [email protected] it. If I already have to start like that, no thx.

A lot of ppl accepted the contract. I cant blame them, invoices needed to be paid. Me? I am confident enough I will find something else. I don't wanna act out of fear, there is always work available.
BMI was a nice bunch of ppl to work with. Ok some others were complaining, but me, I was happy and worked hard.

The owners (the bonds, bart simpson......) ...happy not to be a part of their plan anymore. Don't trust them for a penny.

All the best to my ex peers, I was really proud to work with you guys and be a part of BMI, no matter what others are saying. I will miss you.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 13:41
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 20:00
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Originally Posted by NutLoose View Post
Like business air all over again. Just missing the Granite call sign...
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 09:41
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[color=left=#000000] "middle of nowhere" might be nice.
Think and go back to our young dreams of being a pilot.[/color]
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 15:59
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That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 16:05
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That has to be the cheapest brand name change ever - they couldnt even be bothered to match the blue paint colour.... maybe even just two pieces of blue vinyl from a hardware shop..... and " Scotlands Airline" , with the union flag still on the tail ?????
Given the circumstances and almost overnight acquisition of these aircraft and routes I would highly doubt that this is permanent and will be a decal to avoid flying around with flyBMI on the side. They used decals on their leased saab 2000's which were identical so probably had these lying around. You can safely bet that these aircraft will soon be sent to the paint shop properly to have the full Loganair livery on it.
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