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Old 17th Feb 2019, 12:49
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Originally Posted by Alpine Flyer
I found the figure of less than 400 staff interesting for an airline this size. Seems rather lean.
It does seem to be lean. Anyone know how many pilots they employed?
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 13:07
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BBC lunchtime news illustrating their feature on flyBMI with library shots of a BMI A319.

Bless.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 13:14
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Originally Posted by C195


It does seem to be lean. Anyone know how many pilots they employed?
About 125. Never stable.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 13:17
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Least it wasn't a DC9!!

Loganair are picking up the ABZ routes to BRS, EBJ & OSL from 4 March. Almost as if the sister company saw it coming…..
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 13:44
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Not sure Loganair have the aircraft to just pick the routes up, hopefully it will mean they will take some of Flybmi’s aircraft crews and engineers. The fact they operate the Embraer should make it fairly straightforward to achieve this.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 14:47
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Originally Posted by FlyingApe
Looks Bad. Think I might be at the Job centre Monday. :-(

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Do exactly that on Monday. And convince everyone else to do so too. If that next job takes a little too long, the Job Centre will be able to provide that reference that might be very important for your "last X-number of years" reference trail.

A good bunch of pilots and cabin crew there, I hope that you all get new jobs soon enough that you don't need that Job Centre reference to fill the gap. Good luck to all of you.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 15:07
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So when is (was) payday in Flybmi?
Did they shut down just in time to avoid paying their staff?

I second whoever said this airline must be one of the best kept secrets in the aviation world. I have seen their aircraft from time to time, but have no idea where they used to fly.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 15:34
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
So when is (was) payday in Flybmi?
Did they shut down just in time to avoid paying their staff?

I second whoever said this airline must be one of the best kept secrets in the aviation world. I have seen their aircraft from time to time, but have no idea where they used to fly.
Mid month almost definitely - I worked for an Airline that went bust i got the pay slip but no money in the bank. I suspect as usual the Pilots and Mx will get gobbled up quickly, for Cabin Crew and Office Staff - not a good time. Best wishes to you all.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 17:18
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Almost definitely mid-month?
Not in the months I worked there. It was the last working day of the month.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 18:30
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Least it wasn't a DC9!!
The accuracy of the BBC news seems to be getting ever worse. The first few news items about the A380 production coming to an end incuded images of an aircraft that actually had "Airbus A320" emblazoned down the side...
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 18:32
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An honest question: Without feeder contracts with one or more majors, can an airline make money with a fleet of EMB-145s? I was once told that they were pretty cheap to operate, but that was many many moons ago.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 19:22
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Originally Posted by ShyTorque
The accuracy of the BBC news seems to be getting ever worse. The first few news items about the A380 production coming to an end incuded images of an aircraft that actually had "Airbus A320" emblazoned down the side...
The thing is with the media that if theyíre that this misinformed and/or ignorant about aviation matters then you have to assume thereís a good chance that this level of ignorance corresponds across the board to all of their other ďnewsĒ. Itís a pretty damning indictment of what they shove down our throats on a daily basis.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 19:36
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Originally Posted by Webby737
Sounds about right.
I can only base this assumption on the two mid week flights I took with BMI on the same day, on both flights the aircraft was maybe 30 - 40% full.
Strangely enough, if I didn't work at an airport I would have never known they existed, I never saw or heard any form of advertising or promotion.
This is a real shame, I'm sure with the correct management BMI could (should have !) have been a success.
Same here - I (wrongly) assumed that BMI/flyBMI had both disappeared a good few years ago.

Presumably this failure has to be good news for flybe, at least?
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 19:41
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I’d say their sister airline Loganair will hoover up the pilots and engineers to fly the Embraer 135 and 145 that were transferred to Loganair a few months ago. In fact I’m fairly sure that some of the routes that BMIR were flying up until this week will now be flown by Loganair.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 19:50
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Three FLYBMI aircraft arrived Norwich 16th February for storage.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 20:02
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Call me a cynic but, the sister company just happens to be able the next day after FlyBMIís demise to offer some of the routes it used to do.

The sister company over the last few months just happens to take on the E135/E145 type to its AOC and took 2 aircraft plus support from said sister company and are now fully up and running then the owners who own the sister company put FlyBMI down.

This has been in the planning for a while and the poor staff have paid for it with their jobs. Letís hope they all get new jobs as fast as humanly possible.

Really poor from the owners. Good luck all.

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Old 17th Feb 2019, 21:18
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Originally Posted by solent
Call me a cynic but, the sister company just happens to be able the next day after FlyBMIís demise to offer some of the routes it used to do.

The sister company over the last few months just happens to take on the E135/E145 type to its AOC and took 2 aircraft plus support from said sister company and are now fully up and running then the owners who own the sister company put FlyBMI down.

This has been in the planning for a while and the poor staff have paid for it with their jobs. Letís hope they all get new jobs as fast as humanly possible.

Really poor from the owners. Good luck all.

Cynic, maybe, but you might have just hit the proverbial nail on the head. All seems too convenient.

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Old 17th Feb 2019, 23:19
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To lay the blame on brexit and the rest is totally gobshite.....these issues were well known to them for years... and no planning to avoid. The flights were simply too expensive with no commercial direction for the company on what they were offering and market, was the clear cause of the demise and poor staff pay the price......

they were looking for self sponsored crews 2 weeks back - surely they know well before then where they were heading!
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 23:19
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Originally Posted by PA28161
but let's not kid ourselves that the underlying problems are the iniquitous taxes and penalties forced on airlines and pax (and in other industries too) in the misguided, erroneous, all time gargantuan myth called man made global warming.
Brexit will have harmed them more than carbon taxes. I don't know where and how long you have lived on this planet. I can only remember close to half a century and even discounting that as a kid I might have felt the cold a bit more with less fat for insulation, winters were longer and colder 45 years ago. We used to have continuous snow cover around the city for at least a couple of weeks every year, while it all melts away now after a day or two. Ski resorts in the mountains used to have snow without lots of expensive equipment to make it themselves. It's pretty obvious to me that there is global warming.
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Old 17th Feb 2019, 23:27
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Originally Posted by solent
Call me a cynic but, the sister company just happens to be able the next day after FlyBMIís demise to offer some of the routes it used to do.

The sister company over the last few months just happens to take on the E135/E145 type to its AOC and took 2 aircraft plus support from said sister company and are now fully up and running then the owners who own the sister company put FlyBMI down.

This has been in the planning for a while and the poor staff have paid for it with their jobs. Letís hope they all get new jobs as fast as humanly possible.

Really poor from the owners. Good luck all.

I hear there are a lot of the pilots being offered jobs with Loganair (100+) and that induction courses are starting VERY soon for them
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