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Old 28th Sep 2018, 18:08
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World's smallest aircraft carrier?

On its way along the mid-Atlantic Coast . . .



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It's actually a replica on its way to national Harbor . . . pretty cool sight nonetheless.

https://www.bizjournals.com/washingt...al-harbor.html

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Old 28th Sep 2018, 21:32
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I wonder what airframe this is. Looks like a retired 747-200?
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As per the comment in the Steve Trimble tweet... "A 747-200 painted in Air Force One livery..."
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Ex Evergreen Jet turned into a tourist attraction being moved to a temporary location for it's next "gig"
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Ex Evergreen Jet turned into a tourist attraction being moved to a temporary location for it's next "gig"
747-212BF MSN 20712/218, ex Singapore Airlines, Flying Tiger, Pan Am/CRAF and Evergreen.
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I thought for a minute maybe that old scam "Family Airlines" had finally gone operational.
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[QUOTE]The next version of the genuine article will be a modified Boeing (NYSE: BA) 747-8, with 4,000 square feet of interior floor space, advanced communications systems and the ability to withstand a nuclear blast.[\QUOTE]

They sure build 'em tough at Boeing!
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Considering the short runway distance, how much speeds would the barge or wind have to be going against its nose before it could lift off
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OQU

If Iím not mistaken this was parked at OQU for a few years recently awaiting conversion to a replica. I remember seeing it on the ramp there then found this article:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.provi...emplate=ampart
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You're all wrong...

...it's just a way of making a barge go faster, and reducing its draught at the same time...
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RufusXS says:

...this was parked at OQU for a few years recently awaiting conversion to a replica.

Now, just how DO you turn a real aircraft into a replica???
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Originally Posted by Ant
RufusXS says:

...this was parked at OQU for a few years recently awaiting conversion to a replica.

Now, just how DO you turn a real aircraft into a replica???
Because it is a completely different aircraft than what it is painted as, given that the actual AF1 aircraft are very heavily modified, aesthetic changes alone donít make it the real thing. Therefore it is a REPLICA.
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Originally Posted by RufusXS


Because it is a completely different aircraft than what it is painted as, given that the actual AF1 aircraft are very heavily modified, aesthetic changes alone donít make it the real thing. Therefore it is a REPLICA.
No need to yell.

But that's correct. Add in the fact that the engines and probably anything else that would actually allow the thing to fly have been removed, and it's no longer an airplane/aeroplane, just something that used to be and still looks like one.
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Add in the fact that the engines and probably anything else that would actually allow the thing to fly have been removed
Well, yes. While I can just about understand the reasons for robbing the original JT9Ds (though there can't be much demand for those nowadays), those mock CF6s are pretty naff:

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Lamapaseo.
The barge is equipped with a conveyor belt.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Well, yes. While I can just about understand the reasons for robbing the original JT9Ds (though there can't be much demand for those nowadays), those mock CF6s are pretty naff:

I drove by it in a car on the ramp when it was at OQU and it still had the engines it flew in on on the wings, just sitting there windmilling. I guess they replaced them for display purposes.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
747-212BF MSN 20712/218, ex Singapore Airlines, Flying Tiger, Pan Am/CRAF and Evergreen.
Thanks Dave, that is the kind of information I was looking for.

Interesting project but I would say difficult to accomplish to an extent where the interior of this mockup would correspond sufficiently to the real thing without support from the Air Force....
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Originally Posted by AN2 Driver
Thanks Dave, that is the kind of information I was looking for.

Interesting project but I would say difficult to accomplish to an extent where the interior of this mockup would correspond sufficiently to the real thing without support from the Air Force....
OK, but nothing I've read in any of the linked articles above suggest they are attempting to recreate the interior of AF1, it is simply the setting for a museum on "Presidential travel." Whether that's just air travel or going further back to more basic days does not seem to be clear. I love the aircraft, but the museum concept seems like a snoozer to me. I'm happy to be corrected by anyone who has actually seen it, though.
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Thanks Dave, that is the kind of information I was looking for.

Interesting project but I would say difficult to accomplish to an extent where the interior of this mockup would correspond sufficiently to the real thing without support from the Air Force....
There isn't anything particularly secret about the configuration of the interior - in addition to the Prez and his staff, AF1 routinely carries a couple dozen press people. Heck, I spent enough time onboard the current AF1 aircraft before they they were delivered that I could still describe the layout fairly well (dimensions would be another story since it's been nearly 30 years). That horrid Air Force One movie staring Harrison Ford actually did a fairly good job of depicting the main deck layout (some of the other, er, features were pretty fanciful though, and the flight deck was quite wrong).
It's the some of the systems that are considered 'top secret'...

Several ex-Evergreen 747s have gone to interesting post-flying careers. One is parked on the roof of the Evergreen 'Wings and Wave" waterpark in McMinnville and is integrated into a couple of the water slides.


Another is parked out front of the Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum next door (at least is was when I visited the museum a year ago...)

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Old 30th Sep 2018, 00:24
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Looks fake to me.
Never seen a 747 on top of an A380
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