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Old 24th Jul 2000, 20:59
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at 50 I'm too old to start a new career so let me enjoy my little fantasy on FS.
You're never too old to be a private pilot, though, and a two-hour rental is cheaper than most short-haul commercial flights. I got my licence last year at the age of 36 and it's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 21:34
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at 50 I'm too old to start a new career so let me enjoy my little fantasy on FS.
You're never too old to be a private pilot, though, and a two-hour rental is cheaper than most short-haul commercial flights. I got my licence last year at the age of 36 and it's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 21:59
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Further to my earlier posting, taking a MSFS sim pilot on a trial flight wouldn't be a problem; hopefully I'd show him a thing or two. But if he was a 'spotter', no chance!
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 22:05
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at 50 I'm too old to start a new career so let me enjoy my little fantasy on FS.
You're never too old to be a private pilot, though, and a two-hour rental is cheaper than most short-haul commercial flights. I got my licence last year at the age of 36 and it's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 22:09
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I suspect the guy lacks something in his life.
He certainly has a simplistic view of flying.
Lucky for us he's just a sim pilot.

I have to say having operated all the FS range
at one time or another, I could see how a
pilot might like it, after all it's useful for
maintaining a good scan when for one reason
or another you may not be flying. But for the
life of me I can't understand why non-pilots
and never-be pilots like it!
For all of those who have flown FS but not
the real thing. The key difference is the view,
no amount of RAM can match that. Also the
underlying tension which you often feel when
you fly, This tension is usually a manifestation
of the old pilot's prayer 'Please God don't let me
screw up' not fear, I leave that to my passengers!

I'm pleased to hear I'm not the only pilot who
can't land FS I suspect it's something to do with
the fact we subconscously look for cues which
are simply not available in a PC. Whereas a PC
pilot has no such preconceptions.
Many is the time I crashed an burned after faultless
flights.
I suspect that new students who have flown
FS2000 would fixate on the instruments, that panel
is all dominating.
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 22:14
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Land it, I can never even find the poxy Airfield. The aids never tie up and the whole experience is a waste of 30 Squid.

Ever seen a trolley tart in the sim and what about Night Stops? Remember boys the apprentaship to become a dirty old man starts at 15!

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Old 24th Jul 2000, 22:35
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BRUpax
at 50 I'm too old to start a new career so let me enjoy my little fantasy on FS.
You're never too old to be a private pilot, though, and a two-hour rental is cheaper than most short-haul commercial flights. I got my licence last year at the age of 36 and it's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
 
Old 24th Jul 2000, 22:51
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Maybe this is what is his problem?

"Topic: Sims make you drunk?"
http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/For...ML/008954.html

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 07:54
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Yep I had the 'know it all' syndrome from flying the sim. I must admit though
im not too bad in reality although my experience is very little,I owe some of it to the sim. I think if flown correctly a beginner can improve his/her touch on the yoke. I think it helped mine a little
But i must agree with the above...its value is limited and take it with a grain of salt

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 09:23
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About this sim dork that someone mentioned. He spotted a problem with a plane on pushback? That is commendable. Why didnt the pilot realize the problem on pre-flight walk-around?

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 09:35
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Ok, I'll admit to starting out many years ago on FS4.0, yoke pedals and all. When came time to upgrade to FS2000, the choice was, $2500 for a computer to run the thing, or $2500 block time for flying lessons to get started.

Then the real world hit---FS is maybe great for kind of getting the handg, of instrument training, but isn't worth diddly for VFR or initial training. First time I set foot in a REAL airplane, I put the whole FS mess away and haven't touched it since. I've yet to get airsick doing hooded unusal attitude recovery in FS, but my instructor regularly enjoys my green complexion after about 6 of those in a row.

I promise, if I ever do a flight deck visit, I'll never mention FS.
 
Old 27th Jul 2000, 10:49
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Thats what this sim is for




One of my old multiplayer sessions with a couple of friends of mine, both working on their PPLs...

Boy do I miss those wild days!!

Smurfy

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 11:11
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BigJets,
It was noticed when the plane was BEING pushed back. Maybe it happened after the Pilot finished his checks.

I will find out more when I see him again though.
 
Old 27th Jul 2000, 11:46
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Don't get me wrong though...

...I think that MSFS can be extremely useful during later stages of training (i.e. Instrument flying). I have used it many times myself to practice instrument procedures!

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 17:52
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I used to spend hours on flightsim doing all sorts of wild things for fun, and when I first went to fly a real aircraft, the instructors all thought that I had many hours experience. Although theory was never my strong point, flightsim can improve hand-eye coordination, instrument scan and the precise small movements needed when flying a precise approach, or the fast reactions when flying during a bad day.

I also knew all about navaids and how to read them as soon as I first flew IFR. It gave me that little bit of a head start that was useful.

I agree that there are loads of nutters out there that think they can do it all, but MSFS is not a bad tool if you are aware that it's only a game.
 
Old 27th Jul 2000, 18:00
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BRUpax
at 50 I'm too old to start a new career so let me enjoy my little fantasy on FS.
You're never too old to be a private pilot, though, and a two-hour rental is cheaper than most short-haul commercial flights. I got my licence last year at the age of 36 and it's the best thing I've ever done for myself.
 
Old 27th Jul 2000, 18:48
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As an airline pilot who grew up playing MSFS in all its versions and also owns the most current version FS2000 I can say this: It is NOTHING like the real thing.

First off I guess I am weird... I can land the sim AND the real thing but as many know there is a huge difference in the real thing from the sim which is horrible in showing the real "feel" of being in a plane. The MSFS is terrible at reproducing the sense of speed, visual cues, or control forces of a real airplane. It is EXCELLENT however for making people intrested in avaition (I really believe MSFS plays some role in me being a professional pilot today) and giving some a general idea of what goes on in a cockpit.

I have no problem with people telling me they fly MSFS and want to talk shop with a real pilot. I would laugh if like some people have stated I were approached by a MSFS jockey who started wanting to compare the finer tips of landing the Saab 340B based on the latest version they downloaded in the sim.

The sim is incredible for $49 but please $49 does not teach you to fly a $10,000,000 plane.

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Old 27th Jul 2000, 18:56
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A little off topic but I have to share this story... when my company used to fly the Jetstream 31 we would do a Torque/Temp limiter check on the runway before the first flight of the morning. The check involved a fair amount of power being applied with the brakes held and then testing the system which backed down some power automatically which could be heard audibly quite easily by everyone in the airplane. Anyway one of our crews was reported to the FAA as being delinquent because a general aviation Cessna pilot reported that the "Mag Check" was too quick and sounded wrong yet our plane still departed!

LOL!
 
Old 28th Jul 2000, 06:07
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Saab340Pilot--Thanks for the post. Congratulations on making it to the major league.
I think flight sim is a great outlet for wannabee frustration.
Unrelated to flight sim really- but on a flight from IAD to MDW one time I was on a DC9 taxiing to our rwy. My girlfriend and I decided to request a back seat behind the wings and next to the engines to get some pictures. As we taxied out I was looking into the front of the engine and wondering why the fwd turbine wasnt rotating. I thought "oh boy". Is this normal?", I thought. I just decided that we were taxiing with engine no. 2 until we get to our holding position to conserve gas, then warm up no.1 and go. Well there wasn't any delay. We rounded the rwy and all the ponies started singing. Thrust felt good and we were rotatin. I decided I didnt know everything about jet engines. That turbine looking thing didnt move for the whole flight. Must not be a turbine I thought, maybe an air diffuser of some sort. I'm glad I didnt run to the flight deck.

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Old 28th Jul 2000, 12:57
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I had exactly the same experience once taxying out in a DC9 at MSP. Thought that we were taxying on one engine until the take-off roll started. It then dawned on me that the bit that wasn't spinning probably wasn't meant to!!
 


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