What do you think of this kind of Pilot?
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tee hee,
If any Journo's out there need info on Bell206 crashes, I'm you're man.
On FS98 I stoof it in every time
If you want to simulate, use proper sim.
If you want to fly, use an aircraft.
If you want to muck about...use MS fltsim
Anything else..is pants.
If any Journo's out there need info on Bell206 crashes, I'm you're man.
On FS98 I stoof it in every time
If you want to simulate, use proper sim.
If you want to fly, use an aircraft.
If you want to muck about...use MS fltsim
Anything else..is pants.
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As this thread goes past the 100 replies mark I have to close it... nah! Lets see how the new server handles long threads.
This posting seems to have generated a lot of replies and having quickly scanned through some of them I am not suprised. Anyone who quotes that flying the real thing is as easy as playing with a PC flight sim is obviously on a wind up and shame on those of you who fell for it and replied indignantly in defence of the real job.
I must admit to once being a 'plane spotter'. I did grow out of it, well the registration collecting part but I still enjoy watching the things from close up near a threshold once on a while even if it is only whilst waiting to line up. I even sagged off school for 2 weeks once and spent every day at Liverpool Airport until I was caught. Look where it got me!
I remember when I was studying for my IR I used to use the original MS Flight Sim for the Apple Mac, an old black and white program to help me visualise some of the instruments for various approaches but I am sure there are some better programs out there for that kind of practice. The program would never help for any type of flying experience but it did help to visualise how some nav instruments would look and change during an approach.
So, don't let the flight sim 'experts' wind up the rest of you airline pilots out there too much. We know what is involved in the job and they only 'think' they know what is involved. Button pushing? Yeah, sure.
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This posting seems to have generated a lot of replies and having quickly scanned through some of them I am not suprised. Anyone who quotes that flying the real thing is as easy as playing with a PC flight sim is obviously on a wind up and shame on those of you who fell for it and replied indignantly in defence of the real job.
I must admit to once being a 'plane spotter'. I did grow out of it, well the registration collecting part but I still enjoy watching the things from close up near a threshold once on a while even if it is only whilst waiting to line up. I even sagged off school for 2 weeks once and spent every day at Liverpool Airport until I was caught. Look where it got me!
I remember when I was studying for my IR I used to use the original MS Flight Sim for the Apple Mac, an old black and white program to help me visualise some of the instruments for various approaches but I am sure there are some better programs out there for that kind of practice. The program would never help for any type of flying experience but it did help to visualise how some nav instruments would look and change during an approach.
So, don't let the flight sim 'experts' wind up the rest of you airline pilots out there too much. We know what is involved in the job and they only 'think' they know what is involved. Button pushing? Yeah, sure.
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The Professional Pilots RUmour NEtwork
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My first 'flying' experience was NightFlight for the ZX Spectrum - I can't believe how much I enjoyed it.
I currently have FS2000 on my PC but since I started flying for real I haven't touched it - there's just no comparison with the real thing.
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I currently have FS2000 on my PC but since I started flying for real I haven't touched it - there's just no comparison with the real thing.
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Id just like to say that if I was alone in a 737, on the ready and I had to push the throttles up and take that baby up in the air, Id faint.
I didnt say I wouldnt like to try a turn at thirty thousand though. With an instructor of course. If the instructor suddenly died of a heart attack--Id faint.
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I didnt say I wouldnt like to try a turn at thirty thousand though. With an instructor of course. If the instructor suddenly died of a heart attack--Id faint.
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Its about time someone replied to my post. Thats a compliment, right?
MACH NONE!!
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MACH NONE!!
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Try FA-18 Hornet on a Mac with Voodoo accelerators...maximum fun.
Anyone gets on my tit$ at work and hey presto, that very evening they find themselves flying a Fulcrum before becoming a greasy black smudge over the Korean DMZ. All of lifes frustrations are worked out as I humiliate my erstwhile irritators in the air and on the ground before landing for medals and adulation.
Superb, harmless and cheap entertainment, where else can I land a B52 on a carrier, buzz the tower at Inchong doing 600 knots inverted at 50ft AGL and pop the finger, bomb stuff, shoot it down and generally make a complete nuisance of myself...not in real life that's for sure.
You might want to try Longbow Apache too... "launching hellfires!"
Must dash, nurse has found me out of bed again.
Anyone gets on my tit$ at work and hey presto, that very evening they find themselves flying a Fulcrum before becoming a greasy black smudge over the Korean DMZ. All of lifes frustrations are worked out as I humiliate my erstwhile irritators in the air and on the ground before landing for medals and adulation.
Superb, harmless and cheap entertainment, where else can I land a B52 on a carrier, buzz the tower at Inchong doing 600 knots inverted at 50ft AGL and pop the finger, bomb stuff, shoot it down and generally make a complete nuisance of myself...not in real life that's for sure.
You might want to try Longbow Apache too... "launching hellfires!"
Must dash, nurse has found me out of bed again.
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I have to admit, I owned FS98 and FS2000 but since I started working towards my PPL in April I have not used MSFS. It was good when I was young, but it can't beat the real thing. Okay it gives you a basic understanding, but before anyone says, I have never said to a instructor, 'I own MSFS at home'. I don't claim to be a great pilot, but I am enjoying working towards my PPL.
There's no harm in people enjoying MSFS. It's their choice. I have just moved on from that now.........Let them 'play' in peace.
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There's no harm in people enjoying MSFS. It's their choice. I have just moved on from that now.........Let them 'play' in peace.
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Please remember to All Nippon hijack in last year.
Hijacker was player on Microsoft who also belive he can fly 747 under Tokyo Rainbow Brige and so he kill Captain to make his pleasure of flyng. He looses controll 3 or 4 times before another deadhead crews catch him.
Hijacker was player on Microsoft who also belive he can fly 747 under Tokyo Rainbow Brige and so he kill Captain to make his pleasure of flyng. He looses controll 3 or 4 times before another deadhead crews catch him.
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Let me first say I can't land the 737 (FS98) VFR although the real thing is a just a little peach. However I can land it Cat IIIZ (zero everything) at Heathrow. Now try doing that with a proper one.
PC simulators are a bit of fun but what staggers me is how many complete novices who've never even sat in a C152 seem to fire these things up and fly over the place. How do they know how to use the radio navigation instruments even if they let the autopilot manage the flying?
I suspect that we professionally trained pilots are just the lucky ones rather than the ablest. Pick half a dozen Joe Publics with reasonable O levels and you could most likely have them P2-ing a Concorde in no time at all.
My Fair Pilot...
ps I suspect MSFS is quite good if you have a 600,000 trillahertz pc
PC simulators are a bit of fun but what staggers me is how many complete novices who've never even sat in a C152 seem to fire these things up and fly over the place. How do they know how to use the radio navigation instruments even if they let the autopilot manage the flying?
I suspect that we professionally trained pilots are just the lucky ones rather than the ablest. Pick half a dozen Joe Publics with reasonable O levels and you could most likely have them P2-ing a Concorde in no time at all.
My Fair Pilot...
ps I suspect MSFS is quite good if you have a 600,000 trillahertz pc
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Mmmmm. FS98 is fun, and useful for a few reminders, and I bought it intending to practice holds and other procedural work for my IR. I think it will be handy. I can just about fly the fixed wing types, but certainly no better than ground-bound friends and I can't even get the Jetranger off the deck safely, let alone hover or land the #@*&*£ (for the record I can fly a real rotary).
And twistedenginestarter - who needs Radionav? We're talking early-stage, VFR flying here, and I suspect PPL(Sim) holders will tend to be overreliant on aids when they hop in the real thing, as visual features are scarce and unreliable on FS98, and few nerds have 1/4 mill charts handy
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And twistedenginestarter - who needs Radionav? We're talking early-stage, VFR flying here, and I suspect PPL(Sim) holders will tend to be overreliant on aids when they hop in the real thing, as visual features are scarce and unreliable on FS98, and few nerds have 1/4 mill charts handy
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One quick question....Does anyone ever watch those home improvement shows on TV. Dont you wonder how they do all that? Anyone try to dabble in a bit of woodworking but give up, sit in front of the tube and watch "This Old House" reruns? Just wondered.
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