Captain UA455 removed from flight for "emotional meltdown"
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Gender cannot be an issue, it could happen to anyone these days. Had the captain and first officer both been gay and both madly in love with the same gay flight attendant, who was also on the flight, who had ditched them both for another gay flight attendant who was also on the same flight, and all the pax were gays on their way to a gay convention, the issue of gender discrimination would not have arisen and no journalist worth his salt would have written a bean about all that wobble been thrown on board and we would have had nothing to talk about on this forum, would you not agree.
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Mentioned the other pilot was a man and ranted politics with Clinton and trump. Sounds like an anti man feminist rant. Hubby probably cheated and got caught leading to divorce.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.
I feel very sorry for the lady as she obviously worked very hard to become a UAL captain in the first place and people do have emotional overloads, like it or not hormonal imbalances can amplify those for the fair sex more than men sometimes.
A few things puzzle me
1 Only 20 Pax tried to contact UAL about it
2 How on earth , with all the security today, did she get on board sans uniform, said garment normally festooned with Corporate logo, rank stripes various IDs and passes
3 No one in crew room, crew bus, despatch, etc etc saw any odd behaviour
Bizarre incident all round, comments about Trump and Hilary though would suggest that she is certainly not wholly insane
A few things puzzle me
1 Only 20 Pax tried to contact UAL about it
2 How on earth , with all the security today, did she get on board sans uniform, said garment normally festooned with Corporate logo, rank stripes various IDs and passes
3 No one in crew room, crew bus, despatch, etc etc saw any odd behaviour
Bizarre incident all round, comments about Trump and Hilary though would suggest that she is certainly not wholly insane
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How on earth , with all the security today, did she get on board sans uniform
At my airline in the US the policy differs dependent upon the location, some crew rooms/ops you can access in civies, others you can't. Dependent upon the airport.
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Mentioned the other pilot was a man and ranted politics with Clinton and trump. Sounds like an anti man feminist rant. Hubby probably cheated and got caught leading to divorce.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.
"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
I have had a breakdown. Although it seems to have happened in the air, it wasn't apparent until long after landing, and no, I never flew again. THIS IS AMENDED, SINCE I REALISE THAT IT IS IN POOR TASTE, READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME AFTER.
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West Coast. If you're asking about my breakdown, no, not of my own choosing. Loss of licence medically, and the hoops to get it back were too much. I figured that even if I did, the stress of the job would probably bring it back. Luckily I was 57 when it happened, and a good pension kicked in at 60, so it was survivable.
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I read the comments of one passenger who stated that she was wearing flip-flops. I can't imagine an agent letting the working captain down the jetbridge dressed like that. Apparently it was an A-319. Was this a mainline crew? If so, she must be SFO based.
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Whether a man or woman, this type of conduct renders a pilot unfit to be in our profession. I know, she needs help, and help she should get. Once fit again, she should be looking for a non-aviation profession.
I'd also hope that the issue is/was temporary, as the road to a left seat at a US major is long, and this pilot has already invested heavily in their career. To automatically exclude someone from the cockpit without knowing all the facts is a fairly harsh judgement.
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I can't imagine an agent letting the working captain down the jetbridge dressed like that.
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West Coast:
No doubt about that. But, she got to the airplane and at that point was not in violation of any operating regulation for not being in uniform.
To access areas of the SIDA it is per certain airports.
There have been plenty of recent examples of male pilots having a breakdown in the cockpit
Commensense prevailed, I wouldn't want to have to fight the Huggy Fluffies of today.
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Sad situation. Unfortunately had she been allowed to become airborne and the gravity of the situation she had created subsequently became apparent to her, then her mental state may have then deteriorated even further. Obviously a lady under great stress and hopefully she will be treated with respect and will get the help she requires.