Captain UA455 removed from flight for "emotional meltdown"

[IBMJunkman]

How did she get onto the plane? I thought the pilot and co-pilot had to go to a place to get weather info and plan the flight. Is that done in street clothes?

[Chronus]

Gender cannot be an issue, it could happen to anyone these days. Had the captain and first officer both been gay and both madly in love with the same gay flight attendant, who was also on the flight, who had ditched them both for another gay flight attendant who was also on the same flight, and all the pax were gays on their way to a gay convention, the issue of gender discrimination would not have arisen and no journalist worth his salt would have written a bean about all that wobble been thrown on board and we would have had nothing to talk about on this forum, would you not agree.

[Deep and fast]

Mentioned the other pilot was a man and ranted politics with Clinton and trump. Sounds like an anti man feminist rant. Hubby probably cheated and got caught leading to divorce.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.

[pax britanica]

I feel very sorry for the lady as she obviously worked very hard to become a UAL captain in the first place and people do have emotional overloads, like it or not hormonal imbalances can amplify those for the fair sex more than men sometimes.

A few things puzzle me
1 Only 20 Pax tried to contact UAL about it
2 How on earth , with all the security today, did she get on board sans uniform, said garment normally festooned with Corporate logo, rank stripes various IDs and passes
3 No one in crew room, crew bus, despatch, etc etc saw any odd behaviour

Bizarre incident all round, comments about Trump and Hilary though would suggest that she is certainly not wholly insane

[Hotel Tango]

How on earth , with all the security today, did she get on board sans uniform

That's because you obviously don't know how it works in the USA. I won't go into detail but simply say that with company I/D she can make it to the gate, even in civvies. As for crew room, crew bus etc. etc., she may have well gone straight to the gate.

[West Coast]

At my airline in the US the policy differs dependent upon the location, some crew rooms/ops you can access in civies, others you can't. Dependent upon the airport.

[aterpster]

A uniform is not required by FAA regulations.

[ehwatezedoing]

Originally Posted by Deep and fast

Mentioned the other pilot was a man and ranted politics with Clinton and trump. Sounds like an anti man feminist rant. Hubby probably cheated and got caught leading to divorce.
The real problem is not calling time on work instead of washing your dirty clothes in public.
Like it or not, she's toast.

Your "final" report is missing Taf and Metar.

[West Coast]

aterpster

A uniform is not required by FAA regulations.

To access areas of the SIDA it is per certain airports.

[Herod]

I have had a breakdown. Although it seems to have happened in the air, it wasn't apparent until long after landing, and no, I never flew again. THIS IS AMENDED, SINCE I REALISE THAT IT IS IN POOR TASTE, READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE COME AFTER.

[West Coast]

Of your own choosing?

[Herod]

West Coast. If you're asking about my breakdown, no, not of my own choosing. Loss of licence medically, and the hoops to get it back were too much. I figured that even if I did, the stress of the job would probably bring it back. Luckily I was 57 when it happened, and a good pension kicked in at 60, so it was survivable.

[Murexway]

I read the comments of one passenger who stated that she was wearing flip-flops. I can't imagine an agent letting the working captain down the jetbridge dressed like that. Apparently it was an A-319. Was this a mainline crew? If so, she must be SFO based.

[chimbu warrior]

Whether a man or woman, this type of conduct renders a pilot unfit to be in our profession. I know, she needs help, and help she should get. Once fit again, she should be looking for a non-aviation profession.

A little early to be judging I would suggest. Until all the facts are known, the reasons for this meltdown cannot be assumed.

I'd also hope that the issue is/was temporary, as the road to a left seat at a US major is long, and this pilot has already invested heavily in their career. To automatically exclude someone from the cockpit without knowing all the facts is a fairly harsh judgement.

[Hotel Tango]

I can't imagine an agent letting the working captain down the jetbridge dressed like that.

How would they know she is the "working" captain? She could be dead heading on the jump seat for all they know. Crews are dead heading all the time in the USA.

[aterpster]

West Coast:

To access areas of the SIDA it is per certain airports.

No doubt about that. But, she got to the airplane and at that point was not in violation of any operating regulation for not being in uniform.

[ExSp33db1rd]

There have been plenty of recent examples of male pilots having a breakdown in the cockpit

Horses for Courses. When I experienced a divorce in mid-career, a sympathetic Management offered me time off, no doubt thinking along present day lines, but I refused on the grounds that whilst my personal life appeared to be going out of control, my job was the one stable thing that I had command of, and enjoyed, and to be denied that as well would have really sent me into depression.

Commensense prevailed, I wouldn't want to have to fight the Huggy Fluffies of today.

[Airbubba]

Originally Posted by Murexway

I read the comments of one passenger who stated that she was wearing flip-flops. I can't imagine an agent letting the working captain down the jetbridge dressed like that. Apparently it was an A-319. Was this a mainline crew? If so, she must be SFO based.

Yep, she was wearing flip-flops as you can see in this picture from Twitter, I've had colleagues show up for international deadheads in similar attire:

https://twitter.com/undeadsinatra/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

[flite idol]

Sad situation. Unfortunately had she been allowed to become airborne and the gravity of the situation she had created subsequently became apparent to her, then her mental state may have then deteriorated even further. Obviously a lady under great stress and hopefully she will be treated with respect and will get the help she requires.

[tsgas]

the way that she is dressed would be suitable for driving a cab