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Emirates B777 gear collapse @ DXB?

Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:17
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I wonder where Aviation Herald got their info from?

....attempted to go around from low height. The aircraft however did not climb, but after retracting the gear touched down on the runway and burst into flames...

gear up before positive rate of climb? If that's right, then surely that's wrong.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:17
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49 were measured after the incident happened I guess

SP 03/08/2016 10:48->
SPECI OMDB 031048Z VRB06KT 6000 NSC 41/24 Q0992 WS ALL RWY
TEMPO=
SA 03/08/2016 10:00->
METAR OMDB 031000Z 11018KT 5000 BLDU NSC 49/05 Q0993 WS ALL
RWY TEMPO 35015KT 1500=
SA 03/08/2016 09:00->
METAR OMDB 030900Z 11021KT 3000 BLDU NSC 49/07 Q0993 WS ALL
RWY TEMPO 35015KT 1500=
SA 03/08/2016 08:00->
METAR OMDB 030800Z 14012KT 100V180 6000 NSC 48/09 Q0994 WS
ALL RWY TEMPO 35015KT 4000 DU=
SP 03/08/2016 07:49->
SPECI OMDB 030749Z 14012KT 110V180 6000 NSC 47/09 Q0994 WS
ALL RWY TEMPO 35015KT 4000 DU=
SA 03/08/2016 07:00->
METAR OMDB 030700Z 06007KT 360V100 8000 NSC 44/10 Q0995 NOSIG=
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:26
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Originally Posted by Masagemarad View Post
Emirates really show its true colors now with its top notch training department !!!! WTF
Regardless of what actually happened to cause the incident this statement is quite true.... the Cabin Crew quite clearly did an absolutely sterling job in getting everybody out of there alive.

They did a job to be proud of Today. What happened up front we will find out in time but I don't think the CC's actions can be criticized in any way given the outcome.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:32
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Surface temperature 49degs, QNH 993 - what kind of density altitude is that?
approximately 4500 ft
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:33
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282+18 reported - is 16 CC (I guess this was a 2 pilot flight ?) typical ?
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:36
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troppo: poor hoss might have got an unwarranted flaming
Thanks
We will never know as my perfectly reasonable analysis of visual clues was deleted.
My point was - it does not look like a gear collapse as first reported, rather a gear-up landing, which has now been reported. Thank you over-zealous mods.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:36
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Avionyx,
You are quite right about the cc crew actions. They also saved the pax.( all of them), in YYZ a few years ago. I find that many of my colleagues are quick to speak in a derogatory manner about the cc, belittle their roles, question their abilities. When the real test came in the aforementioned accidents, they not only rose to the challenge, but shone!

As a soon to retire Professional Pilot of 29 years, ( 1 to go), I have nothing but respect for their abilities in these incredibly difficult situations. Not to mention, what they put up with during the course of their regular work.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:39
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When I saw the pressure, temp 49deg, and the tailwind .......I'm so glad it ended ok
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:42
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I sure hope there wasn't any Live Animals in the hold.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:44
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I wonder where Aviation Herald got their info from?
Presumably from the ATC transmissions, which reported going around and 'gear up'.

Good to see that log0008 and others still not crediting pictures.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:45
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We all know fatigue is cumulative so the rosters for the previous 3 months would tell a better story.
Don't forget bunk time and ground duties on top of 100 hours a month.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:49
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Can we stop with the tailwind? Landed on 12L @ 0841Z.
Wind @ 0800Z was 140/12 Varying 100 to 180.
Wind at 0900Z was 110/21.

So, predominantly from the SE with a bit of variation either side of the r/w axis.

BUT with WS reported and circa 45 C and low QNH....
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:56
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The words GoAround,Flapsxx, Gear Up might have been said but if the mode doesn't engage for whatever reason....... JetStar tried it and got away with it. Recognition of positive climb before the pilot selects the gear up works well.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:57
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gear up before positive rate of climb? If that's right, then surely that's wrong.

Interested Passenger, FYI, in a G/A situation with W/S there is no configuration change till well clear of the W/S
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:57
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Crash of emirates 777

Yes.but something doesnt fit in because they are supposed to retract the gear only after a positive rate of climb is verified.

And plus,if they attempted go around and still hit the ground that might mean that they stalled out or didnt follow correct procedures
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 12:58
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https://youtu.be/12XAQf6u1kI

Clearly shows engine on top of the wing
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 13:02
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Th EVAC command doesn't come straight away, it takes time to run the appropriate EICAS then the EVAC checklist etc. not seen in the Video because the video is too short.

Regarding the wind, the ATC recordings say " wind 340/11 clear to land"

So, from a SE to a NW, yes quite likely Windshear....
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 13:04
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in the UAE every picture here could e considered illegal since they tarnish the reputation of EK. There may be some censorship or self censorship going on
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 13:06
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Originally Posted by Desertweasel View Post
in the UAE every picture here could e considered illegal since they tarnish the reputation of EK. There may be some censorship or self censorship going on
There is plenty of images and videos being circulated by the AE media here though...
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 13:09
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Originally Posted by ACMS View Post
Th EVAC command doesn't come straight away, it takes time to run the appropriate EICAS then the EVAC checklist etc. not seen in the Video because the video is too short.

Regarding the wind, the ATC recordings say " wind 340/11 clear to land"

So, from a SE to a NW, yes quite likely Windshear....
ACMS, that's got to quote of the day, "not seen in the video because the video is too short"
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