EASA after Brexit, a new worldwide ICAO dynamic ?
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According to Wiki, Gibraltar is about the only place exempt.
UK019, oh well, it would have been nice if it had gone. One of the more idiotic pieces of EU legislation where you can actually be in profit for a flight being late.
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Totally agree Tubby. It staggers me that a Jumbo full of passengers being delayed for a valid safety reason (tech) can collect a quarter of a million or more because the airline won't risk their lives.
I was a "remain" voter, by the way - but that particular EU rule is, in my opinion, outrageous.
I was a "remain" voter, by the way - but that particular EU rule is, in my opinion, outrageous.
I have an EASA licence but the likelihood of being offered employment by any reputable european airline has always been nil so the freedom of employment in the EU has meant nothing for me.. A return to a CAA licence will therefore make no difference. I am just hoping that we can dump EASA FTL as soon as possible.
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Tubby, I think it may not be so simple. EU 261 applies to any passenger "Departing from a Member State" so unless I've got it wrong, any return journey from the EU to the UK will qualify. Additionally, I believe Switzerland applies EU261, despite being outside the EU. I'll wager we'll keep it.
According to Wiki, Gibraltar is about the only place exempt.
According to Wiki, Gibraltar is about the only place exempt.
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Before the licence comes the medical. Brexit means no more EASA medicals and less bureaucracy for our AME`s and take down the sign "that way to the Republic. " I wonder what the effect will be on flight training here, there and everywhere.
Membership of EASA is independent of membership of the EU.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-...a_relationship[0]=field_easa_country_mbmo_target_id
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https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-...a_relationship[0]=field_easa_country_mbmo_target_id
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You do not have to be an EU member to be in EASA, it has been correctly pointed out that Iceland, Switzerland and Norway are all EASA members. But it is also true that EASA is an agency of the European Union.
EUROPA - Agencies of the European Union - EASA
EUROPA - Agencies of the European Union - EASA
EG in most of the world a 757 is a medium when following, heavy when being followed. Not so in the UK.
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They are not the same, however to be in EASA one requires to be in the EU, any state can adopt EASA, the EU 'makes the rules', Brits will not like that one bit
Is this much the same as Mad Cow Disease, France (not the EU) blockaded British beef transits long after EU had lifted the ban whilst France had their own Mad Cows all along?
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So if the EU makes the rules then how come 60+ y/o pilots can operate in and/or /overfly most EU countries except France and Italy?
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Luxembourg EU Court
The 65 y/o limit replaced the former 60 y/o after pilots went to the EU Luxembourg Court saying there was an age discrimination. Discrimination is forbidden by Rome Treaty (EU) but really applied after the Amsterdam Treaty (EU too)... What will happen when these pilots will reach 65 ?
ICAO did forbid sum of ages greater than 120 but only a national or EU Court is able to decide if there is discrimination to be corrected. (Of course medical state must stay class I)
ICAO did forbid sum of ages greater than 120 but only a national or EU Court is able to decide if there is discrimination to be corrected. (Of course medical state must stay class I)
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ICAO did forbid sum of ages greater than 120 but only a national or EU Court is able to decide if there is discrimination to be corrected. (Of course medical state must stay class I)
Was at a presentation given by Chief Exec CAA last week (pre vote). He stated that it would be down to the Government to decide the position should we exit but he couldn't imagine them doing anything other than agreeing to carry on with EASA. He also said, as above, it would be compliance without influence.
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Its not a question IF you exit, its a question how fast you exit out of EU. and I hope for crews that you not have to exit out of EASA, but you got what the majority wanted, and I think the best is a fast exit, for all !
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Don't confuse JAA and EASA. JAA was open to all, EASA is an EU agency and their regulations are based on EU laws. The core of FTL is an EU law that required consensus between the EU parliament, the commission and the council of transport ministers. EASA is allowed to detail this law with their own certification specifications and acceptable means of compliance.
Without EU membership you may comment proposed changes to the basic law but you won't have any MEPs or ministers or commissioners having a say in it. So the CAA would be no better off than Joe Pilot writing a comment (though their comment might get more attention).
Don't bet con CAP 371 coming back. If EU-FTL means savings to the airlines, they'll probably lobby for keeping it, stating they can't bear the dual burden of a return to CAP 371 and losses caused by reduced market access, a weakened pound, whatever.
Without EU membership you may comment proposed changes to the basic law but you won't have any MEPs or ministers or commissioners having a say in it. So the CAA would be no better off than Joe Pilot writing a comment (though their comment might get more attention).
Don't bet con CAP 371 coming back. If EU-FTL means savings to the airlines, they'll probably lobby for keeping it, stating they can't bear the dual burden of a return to CAP 371 and losses caused by reduced market access, a weakened pound, whatever.
