BA 777 on fire in Las Vegas
Back in september, someone mentioned to me that it would be repaired because of a shortage of airframes. As said, it's probably a mixture of reasons many mentioned previously.
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The fact is no one on this website has a clue what the costs are to repair this aircraft, much less the lost revenue incurred or the diminished value of the aircraft is. Most just talking heads so far...
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Well, looking at the Qantas A380, how much would you estimate the damage?
Then find the actual price tag & look at the BA 777.
Simply saying it asin't so is a little too easy if one fails to bring up any substantiation
Then find the actual price tag & look at the BA 777.
Simply saying it asin't so is a little too easy if one fails to bring up any substantiation
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10 year 777-200 for $7.7m
Seems that the going rate for the 777 is pretty low these days:
Delta to buy used Boeing 777 for $7.7 million | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Is this some oddball transaction or relevant to current market ?
Delta to buy used Boeing 777 for $7.7 million | Airframes content from ATWOnline
Is this some oddball transaction or relevant to current market ?
I have no idea what the repair will cost but I can vouch for the 12-15mn figure for a D / heavy C check.
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I muss say that as other posters I don't see the economic case for a repair of this airframe.
You might also find this tidbit interesting.
I muss say that as other posters I don't see the economic case for a repair of this airframe.
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Delta has been very coy about this transaction. As pointed out in other threads, the value of a frame to Delta will depend on whether it is configured (e.g., engines) the same way as its others, time to next C/D check.
Indeed, for all we know, Delta could have bought this frame to be a parts donor.
Indeed, for all we know, Delta could have bought this frame to be a parts donor.
I think Delta's 777 fleet are all with Trent engines so one would assume they would buy a used airframe with Trent engines.
Are there any used GE engined airframes available at a similar price? BA might be happy to acquire a replacement airframe with Trent engines but I don't imagine GE would be ready to hand over their business to a competitor.
Are there any used GE engined airframes available at a similar price? BA might be happy to acquire a replacement airframe with Trent engines but I don't imagine GE would be ready to hand over their business to a competitor.
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Different engines
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What are the obstacles to buying an aircraft with one manufacturers engines and replacing said engines with another manufacturers engines?
Could this be a possibility?
What are the obstacles to buying an aircraft with one manufacturers engines and replacing said engines with another manufacturers engines?
Could this be a possibility?
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Re Question....where do you want to start?
As BA has both GE and RR engined 777s replacing with a second hand machine with either engine type, preferably of the same sub type, would be presumably cheaper than a repair were there to be one available in reasonbable condition.
As BA has both GE and RR engined 777s replacing with a second hand machine with either engine type, preferably of the same sub type, would be presumably cheaper than a repair were there to be one available in reasonbable condition.
So, no, it's a non-starter.
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Maybe someone else has posted this earlier but I believe the 777 that DAL purchased came from a leasing company that had the aircraft on lease to Malaysian Airlines. It will be parted out.
While technically possible the GE/Trent conversion would be impractical. The last time I saw that done was to a Saudi MD11 that went from GE to P&W and I have since heard it went back to GE's. Go figure that one out.
Keep in mind that just about anything is possible if you throw enough money at the project. Does not mean that its smart, wise or prudent. I doubt that Boeing would ever get behind a sex change like that and would simply withhold engineering and performance data needed to certify the project.
While technically possible the GE/Trent conversion would be impractical. The last time I saw that done was to a Saudi MD11 that went from GE to P&W and I have since heard it went back to GE's. Go figure that one out.
Keep in mind that just about anything is possible if you throw enough money at the project. Does not mean that its smart, wise or prudent. I doubt that Boeing would ever get behind a sex change like that and would simply withhold engineering and performance data needed to certify the project.