A catalogue of errors!!!
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A catalogue of errors!!!
Oh dear! The curse of Transjet strikes again. Lots of happy holidaymakers flying from Bristol to Corfu on SWL706. The pilot tells the passengers that they can see Paris off to the right, then ten minutes later he's back saying "errr it wasn't Paris after all." Slightly worrying? He then tells the passengers that he has to land at Milan to refuel, before touching down in Verona where the airline have no fuel credit. On the return flight SWL705 the following week, the pilot tells the pax that he has to return to Corfu as all the oil had leaked out of the engine because "someone hadn't put the filler cap back on properly." Also on another recent SWL flight the pilot didn't speak enough English to communicate with the co-pilot, so they had to have a second co-pilot on board to translate between the two!!! Is this normal for this airline? Would you fly with Transjet? What do you think about this?
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Why bother correcting the 'Paris' error message - Johnny Holidaymaker wouldn't have the first clue anyway!
Yeah what type - what airline uses a jet that can't do a 4 hour charter hop without a refuel? A stupid one by all accounts!
I was on the flight deck of a Turkish charter where the FO couldn't speak English, and only had a basic grasp of Turkish (he was from Azerbaijan!) - made interesting watching on the descent checks! (it seemed various things like APU and flaps were understandable)
Ah, found them here &$& classics and MD80's. Dont think tehy are related to the Aussie Transjet Group , who may want to distance themselves from the above!
Yeah what type - what airline uses a jet that can't do a 4 hour charter hop without a refuel? A stupid one by all accounts!
I was on the flight deck of a Turkish charter where the FO couldn't speak English, and only had a basic grasp of Turkish (he was from Azerbaijan!) - made interesting watching on the descent checks! (it seemed various things like APU and flaps were understandable)
Ah, found them here &$& classics and MD80's. Dont think tehy are related to the Aussie Transjet Group , who may want to distance themselves from the above!
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Last week they were flying into BRS in an MD. They declared some kind of fuel emergency and got a priority landing. I had to slow down to min clean and stooge around.
They did not declare a PAN or Mayday.
They seemed to be using some obscure terminology about "fuel distress". Their accent was tricky.
Landed without incident and I have no idea of the facts.
I speculated at the time as to why ATC did not force their hand to declare a PAN.
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They did not declare a PAN or Mayday.
They seemed to be using some obscure terminology about "fuel distress". Their accent was tricky.
Landed without incident and I have no idea of the facts.
I speculated at the time as to why ATC did not force their hand to declare a PAN.
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Maybe somebody should make a discrete 
call to the CAA.
If nothing else, a thorough check of pilot licenses, medicals, company AOC & aircraft paperwork, etc would surely prove that all is well, or not ?!
call to the CAA.If nothing else, a thorough check of pilot licenses, medicals, company AOC & aircraft paperwork, etc would surely prove that all is well, or not ?!
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Folks,
You asked what happened to the 747 at dublin. Well, dear reader...from the Irish Independent....
Wives fly off the handle at plane delays
THE wives and partners of Ireland's World Cup stars flew into controversy last night.
A plane carrying them to Tokyo was hit by a cargo truck loading food at Stockholm airport, delaying the flight for almost two hours.
And some of the women also claimed the plane had only one working toilet for almost 500 people and no in-flight entertainment.
They said some of the Irish party had to sit in economy class despite assurances they would travel first class.
Members of the Irish squad were said to be "furious" last night at the treatment their partners and families received. There was a deluge of calls to the team's hotel in Japan from angry families, with a bulletin board understood to be covered in messages for players to ring their wives.
The travel agent who arranged the trip admitted last night the Transjet Boeing 747 was delayed in Stockholm for 1 hour after a freight door was damaged in a minor collision. But he denied reports that the flight had been a disaster.
David Slattery of Tralee-based Slattery's Travel Agents said the plane had suffered minor damage to one of its doors following a collision with a truck, but that this had been repaired within two hours.
Mr Slattery, who travelled to Japan on the same flight, added that four of the eight toilets on the 747 were still working when the plane landed in Japan, and that a movie had been shown on the Dublin-Stockholm leg of the flight.
After dinner, which was served an hour outside the Swedish capital, most passengers were tired and the cabin lights had been dimmed and most went to sleep, he said.
Mr Slattery said that the families of both captain Steve Staunton and Niall Quinn had been accommodated in first class because they booked their seats last January.
Partners of players who were named in the squad last month could only be accommodated in economy because the plane had just 27 business or first class seats.
"Our business class section of the plane has 27 seats," he said. "Some people were in there but when most people booked in early May business class was full. "There were eight toilets and by the time we landed in Tokyo four were fully working. A film was shown between Dublin and Stockholm and an hour outside Stockholm the meal was served and that took about two hours. After that, people were tired and went to sleep."
The FAI said the trip had been arranged privately and could not comment.
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You asked what happened to the 747 at dublin. Well, dear reader...from the Irish Independent....
Wives fly off the handle at plane delays
THE wives and partners of Ireland's World Cup stars flew into controversy last night.
A plane carrying them to Tokyo was hit by a cargo truck loading food at Stockholm airport, delaying the flight for almost two hours.
And some of the women also claimed the plane had only one working toilet for almost 500 people and no in-flight entertainment.
They said some of the Irish party had to sit in economy class despite assurances they would travel first class.
Members of the Irish squad were said to be "furious" last night at the treatment their partners and families received. There was a deluge of calls to the team's hotel in Japan from angry families, with a bulletin board understood to be covered in messages for players to ring their wives.
The travel agent who arranged the trip admitted last night the Transjet Boeing 747 was delayed in Stockholm for 1 hour after a freight door was damaged in a minor collision. But he denied reports that the flight had been a disaster.
David Slattery of Tralee-based Slattery's Travel Agents said the plane had suffered minor damage to one of its doors following a collision with a truck, but that this had been repaired within two hours.
Mr Slattery, who travelled to Japan on the same flight, added that four of the eight toilets on the 747 were still working when the plane landed in Japan, and that a movie had been shown on the Dublin-Stockholm leg of the flight.
After dinner, which was served an hour outside the Swedish capital, most passengers were tired and the cabin lights had been dimmed and most went to sleep, he said.
Mr Slattery said that the families of both captain Steve Staunton and Niall Quinn had been accommodated in first class because they booked their seats last January.
Partners of players who were named in the squad last month could only be accommodated in economy because the plane had just 27 business or first class seats.
"Our business class section of the plane has 27 seats," he said. "Some people were in there but when most people booked in early May business class was full. "There were eight toilets and by the time we landed in Tokyo four were fully working. A film was shown between Dublin and Stockholm and an hour outside Stockholm the meal was served and that took about two hours. After that, people were tired and went to sleep."
The FAI said the trip had been arranged privately and could not comment.
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You should all get you shait together!
You don't know half of what you on about.
Do you really think that the Swedish CAA doesn't do their job.
You can all bug*er off with your made up stories
You should all get you shait together!
You don't know half of what you on about.
Do you really think that the Swedish CAA doesn't do their job.
You can all bug*er off with your made up stories
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Transjet Fiasco
Dear Knold,
Thanks for posting your message. By suggesting that we all bug*er off does not - I'm afraid - allay any concerns that we have and the general public has regarding, for example, extremely poor communications between the two drivers on ANY aircraft, not just Transjet aeroplanes.
Are you seriously suggesting that the professionals - which we all are - visiting this website and forum - are incorrect to question proven safety breaches?
For God's sake, please do not be so immature. The "stories", as you call them, are NOT made up. As I said already in this despatch, we are all professionals. So, please Knold, start behaving like one.
I know for an absolute fact that the accounts posted by the other members are true. 100% true.
Take care guys and happy driving!!
Thanks for posting your message. By suggesting that we all bug*er off does not - I'm afraid - allay any concerns that we have and the general public has regarding, for example, extremely poor communications between the two drivers on ANY aircraft, not just Transjet aeroplanes.
Are you seriously suggesting that the professionals - which we all are - visiting this website and forum - are incorrect to question proven safety breaches?
For God's sake, please do not be so immature. The "stories", as you call them, are NOT made up. As I said already in this despatch, we are all professionals. So, please Knold, start behaving like one.
I know for an absolute fact that the accounts posted by the other members are true. 100% true.
Take care guys and happy driving!!
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SWL are not exactly top of the popularity list at Gatwick these days, in the last week they have caused a go-around, got lost on numerous occasions, failed to understand the meaning of CFMU slots and best of all stated that they did not have the necessary SID plates for departure so could not follow said SID. What sort of airline lands at a major airport without the correct SID plate for departure?
One I would rather not fly with!
One I would rather not fly with!
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Well it seems good old Transjet are not popular at Newcastle either. With 3 MD83 movements within a few hours of each other they are causing chaos for the poor handling agent. Delays of 7 hours plus are very regular, swapping aircraft at last minute, not to mention that passengers are not impressed with the airline. It seems that this man, the "owner" so to speak is going down the same road as what he went down when he was in charge of Nordic European - the road leading to insolvency or bankruptcy! I seem to remember that Nordic were not the most popular airline at NCL or LGW either. My bet is he won't last the season if this is how its going to carry on.
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Had a search around for Transjet on the web and found the following...
"I recently came home from Zante on a Kosmar holiday. Our flight out of Glasgow with Transjet was delayed from 2:30 until 23:00 The Transjet plane eventually took off at 23:00 and within the hour we were diverted to Gatwick with an engine low on oil pressure for an emergency landing. It was a very bad experience and when we landed most of our group were totally shattered and had no intention of going any further. We were eventually told that we would be boarding an Air 2000 jet at 8:00 and given blankets to make the best of our Gatwick visit. For the return journey we were picked up on the Sunday morning at 8:30 and were first to be checked in at Zante airport at 9:00 our flight was at 11:30. At 12:00 we were told that the aircraft had been diverted to Kefalonia and had landed with damage to the undercarriage. We were eventually flown out of Zante at 21:40 During this second delay we had no contact from any Kosmar reps' as we were stuck in the departure lounge beyond passport control. I now await Kosmars explanation to the whole mess. Will keep you posted "
(Can be found on following website...
http://familytravelforum.com/forum/t...sages/209.html )
Some interesting similarities (and I'm not an expert so I may not be correct in my presumption) with another Transjet tech problem with oil pressure here? Begs the question whether the problems are being fixed properly when they arise ?
Out of interest, as Transjet seem to have an extensive programme out of the UK this summer, are there UK carriers that have sufficient spare capacity to be operating these flights instead of them ?
(Edited to add, I hope they sort their issues out soon as this kind of situation is no good for anyone - airlines, tour ops or passengers...)
"I recently came home from Zante on a Kosmar holiday. Our flight out of Glasgow with Transjet was delayed from 2:30 until 23:00 The Transjet plane eventually took off at 23:00 and within the hour we were diverted to Gatwick with an engine low on oil pressure for an emergency landing. It was a very bad experience and when we landed most of our group were totally shattered and had no intention of going any further. We were eventually told that we would be boarding an Air 2000 jet at 8:00 and given blankets to make the best of our Gatwick visit. For the return journey we were picked up on the Sunday morning at 8:30 and were first to be checked in at Zante airport at 9:00 our flight was at 11:30. At 12:00 we were told that the aircraft had been diverted to Kefalonia and had landed with damage to the undercarriage. We were eventually flown out of Zante at 21:40 During this second delay we had no contact from any Kosmar reps' as we were stuck in the departure lounge beyond passport control. I now await Kosmars explanation to the whole mess. Will keep you posted "
(Can be found on following website...
http://familytravelforum.com/forum/t...sages/209.html )
Some interesting similarities (and I'm not an expert so I may not be correct in my presumption) with another Transjet tech problem with oil pressure here? Begs the question whether the problems are being fixed properly when they arise ?
Out of interest, as Transjet seem to have an extensive programme out of the UK this summer, are there UK carriers that have sufficient spare capacity to be operating these flights instead of them ?
(Edited to add, I hope they sort their issues out soon as this kind of situation is no good for anyone - airlines, tour ops or passengers...)
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Handling agents aroud the country all received a telex the other day from Transjet: it said "....we know we are not the handling agents most popular airline at the moment...." This must be the first thing they've got right! And just to clarify, everything that I wrote when I started this strand IS true!
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Interesting, when I was delayed at LGW on 27th May, I noticed an SWL flight was on the board (think it was to CFU) with a delay which seemed to be into double figures in hours.
Wondered who they were! at least if they continue as they are they'll provide the UK charters with some more work, hopefully before anything particularly nasty occurs.
Wondered who they were! at least if they continue as they are they'll provide the UK charters with some more work, hopefully before anything particularly nasty occurs.
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Funny you should all be talking about delays and fuel emergencies with Transjet etc.
I Flew Tranjsjet out of NCL a couple of weeks ago to Rhodes. the original flight out of Rhodes was an indefinite technical delay, so they whilstled up an MD80 outy of Manchester with a new crew.
Before pushback the Captain comes down the isle telling all us passengers that he may not have enough fuel to get to Rhodes owing to his fuel contingency and runway length/wind at NCL so he may need to divert to some place he cant pronounce but its the second biggest airport in Greece apparently. A bit disconcerting to a low hours PPL whom always made sure I had an hours worth of fuel left and knew all my alternates.
About 4 hours in to the flight we start descending and all goes v quiet on the engine front which was most disconcerting. This carried on for some forty minutes, until we where told that we were landing in Rhodes. A simple message to the passengers stating we where not diverting for fuel would have been nice and reasurring.
Apart from that everything else was fine, although some entertainment would have been nice.
I get the impression there are far too many charter airlines flying aircraft which should be doing the freight run which go tech on a regular basis.Next time I book a package holiday (if ever again) I will insist on the name of the airline they fly with. ( and Im not talikng the likes of Britannia. Monarch , Air 2000 etc ) If I havent heard of them I wont book.
I Flew Tranjsjet out of NCL a couple of weeks ago to Rhodes. the original flight out of Rhodes was an indefinite technical delay, so they whilstled up an MD80 outy of Manchester with a new crew.
Before pushback the Captain comes down the isle telling all us passengers that he may not have enough fuel to get to Rhodes owing to his fuel contingency and runway length/wind at NCL so he may need to divert to some place he cant pronounce but its the second biggest airport in Greece apparently. A bit disconcerting to a low hours PPL whom always made sure I had an hours worth of fuel left and knew all my alternates.
About 4 hours in to the flight we start descending and all goes v quiet on the engine front which was most disconcerting. This carried on for some forty minutes, until we where told that we were landing in Rhodes. A simple message to the passengers stating we where not diverting for fuel would have been nice and reasurring.
Apart from that everything else was fine, although some entertainment would have been nice.
I get the impression there are far too many charter airlines flying aircraft which should be doing the freight run which go tech on a regular basis.Next time I book a package holiday (if ever again) I will insist on the name of the airline they fly with. ( and Im not talikng the likes of Britannia. Monarch , Air 2000 etc ) If I havent heard of them I wont book.