Drones threatening commercial a/c?
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For all the speculation, the actual impact of a done strike on a commercial aircraft / engine can't be that difficult to test and measure on the ground under safe conditions...
Perhaps the 'ban all drones now' brigade would do better to spend their energies trying to convince the relevant safety boards to conduct some proper research so that the risks can be properly quantified and understood?
Perhaps the 'ban all drones now' brigade would do better to spend their energies trying to convince the relevant safety boards to conduct some proper research so that the risks can be properly quantified and understood?
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crunchy bird ingestion
doubtless it's been said but in light of recent posts, bears repeating
the gears and rare earth magnets in drone motors are hard and will wreak havoc with turbine blade tip clearance..
A friend of mine worked on bird ingestion for P&W decades ago. He basically sharpened the first stage blades so they'd shred the bird and it could pass on through like the mostly water substance that a bird is.
There's no gears in a seagull.
Abuse a freedom and you'll lose it.
If th a-holes leep this up all their drones will be cellphone equipped , continuously broadcasting their owner's name and location .
the gears and rare earth magnets in drone motors are hard and will wreak havoc with turbine blade tip clearance..
A friend of mine worked on bird ingestion for P&W decades ago. He basically sharpened the first stage blades so they'd shred the bird and it could pass on through like the mostly water substance that a bird is.
There's no gears in a seagull.
Abuse a freedom and you'll lose it.
If th a-holes leep this up all their drones will be cellphone equipped , continuously broadcasting their owner's name and location .
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Qualcomm joins drone fray in a big way.
Expect to see more drones than ever in the hands of amateurs.
New Qualcomm Tech Could Lead to the Ultimate Drone | WIRED
Qualcomm hopes its little board can be used to create the holy grail of drones en masse: Something with the big-time processing power and imaging capabilities of a pricey drone, the smaller and ultimately safer size of a toy-like drone, and better charging speeds and battery life than either of them.
New Qualcomm Tech Could Lead to the Ultimate Drone | WIRED
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The Federal Aviation Administration restricts airspace around stadium events for three nautical miles, including up to 3,000 feet in the air.
Student charged with endangerment after drone crashes into football stadium | Ars Technica
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If th a-holes leep this up all their drones will be cellphone equipped , continuously broadcasting their owner's name and location .
And how many untrained idiots do you think have one of those as a toy?
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I met a chap a year or so back who was just starting up as a professional photographer, he was very enthusiastic about using drones. He couldn't believe it when I told him the folks at EGCC might be interested in what he was planning to do.
He's based in Wilmslow.
He's based in Wilmslow.
"The first case in England of a person being prosecuted by the Crown Prosecution Service for using drones after a police-led operation."
Man fined after flying drones over Premier League stadiums - BBC News
Man fined after flying drones over Premier League stadiums - BBC News
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UK government teams up with NASA to build drone tracking system
The proposed system would track and trace all drones flying below 500 feet (150 metres), irrespective of whether they are being flown by commercial or leisure pilots.
And of course these will always be flown iaw CAA regs:
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/567...name-them.html
http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/567...name-them.html
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UK government teams up with NASA to build drone tracking system
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The proposed system would track and trace all drones flying below 500 feet (150 metres), irrespective of whether they are being flown by commercial or leisure pilots.
It looks like they expect a 'cooperative' system in which 'drones' report their position to the regulator, otherwise they will have a lot of difficulty identifying them and even discriminating small UAS from birds. UAS now in hobbyist hands or self built will not enable cooperative surveillance so will be unaffected But no doubt the government will pay NASA handsomely for their failure.
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The quote from the House of Lords statement is
The technology that they are discussing is indeed a cooperative system being developed at NASA Ames by Parimal Kopardekar (PK) see:
http://www.atmseminar.org/seminarCon...Kopardekar.pdf
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The proposed system would track and trace all drones flying below 500 feet (150 metres), irrespective of whether they are being flown by commercial or leisure pilots.
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The quote from the House of Lords statement is
My noble friend Lady O’Cathain specifically mentioned NASA and the involvement of the Government with it, as well as industry engagement. The Government are in early discussions with NASA about the drone traffic management system, and it is hoped that those discussions will lead to a UK involvement in the development of that system and the participation of UK industry in future trials to test the robustness of the technology.
http://www.atmseminar.org/seminarCon...Kopardekar.pdf
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Expert Drones
This site seems to be a good place to get a feel for the state of the market. They offer a wide variety of commercial drones, and even offer drone insurance (not liability).
Find the drone for you. Expert Drones
In ohter news, the Finnish post office is playing with drone delivery, like Amazon's.
Finnish post office tests drone for parcel delivery | Reuters
Find the drone for you. Expert Drones
In ohter news, the Finnish post office is playing with drone delivery, like Amazon's.
Finnish post office tests drone for parcel delivery | Reuters
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Not just aircraft!
Some may say slightly off topic, but some may also say this is why the CAA has implemented the new rules...
Drone flies into Whangarei power lines, causes outage | Stuff.co.nz
Drone flies into Whangarei power lines, causes outage | Stuff.co.nz
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Drone humor
OK, it's Friday, and it's time for a little drone humor.
Here's a father who rigged up his drone to pull out his daughter's baby tooth. All seems to go well, but you may be advised to not try this at home.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/pull...021828154.html
Here's a father who rigged up his drone to pull out his daughter's baby tooth. All seems to go well, but you may be advised to not try this at home.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video/pull...021828154.html
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Drone at Manchester
Monarch flight ZB 547 from ACE, due at 1616Hrs, was unable to land At MAN due to "drone activity". Had to divert to Liverpool due low fuel. Currently in a "fuel queue" before return to MAN.
Don't know if any other flights affected.
AS
Don't know if any other flights affected.
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We were flying into Toronto Pearsons Int six days ago when the 744 ahead of us reported a near-miss with a small sized UFO (either a bird or a drone, suspected latter). They did sound a bit worried during transmission to ATC but as usual, ATC replied with, paraphrasing here, "nothing is on my radar so therefore it is not my problem".
Shame really. Looks like we are going to have to share the skies with birds AND drones now...
Shame really. Looks like we are going to have to share the skies with birds AND drones now...
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NZ too
Note the altitude reported for this 'near miss': 6000 feet/2000 metres...
Kaiapoi is 17 km north of the departure airport (Christchurch), at 2-4 metres above seal level.
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"A large red drone flew too close to an Air NZ aircraft on Friday night and authorities are after the operator who they think was in Kaiapoi."
Source: AAP
26 SEP 2015
"Air New Zealand says the operator of a drone put its customers and staff at risk and should have the courage to come forward.
The Civil Aviation Authority says a "sizeable" red drone that on Friday passed close to an Air NZ A320 plane with 166 passengers on board as it climbed out of Christchurch en route to Auckland is being recorded as a near miss.
Air NZ says no evasive action was taken by the pilot of flight NZ542 but customers and staff were put at risk.
"What our pilot believed to be a drone was being operated in and around the flight path, but was fortunately spotted by our pilots who ensured the aircraft avoided it," said Captain David Morgan, Air New Zealand's chief flight operations and safety officer.
"This was reckless behaviour by the drone operator who has so far not had the courage to come forward and address their behaviour with authorities."
Director of Civil Aviation Graeme Harris said the remotely piloted aircraft system (RPAS) passed close to the plane near Kaiapoi at an altitude of about 6000 feet.
CAA launched a full investigation shortly after the pilot reported the sighting and Transport Minister Simon Bridges was briefed on Friday night.
A new civil aviation rule for drones came into effect on August 1. Under the rule, anyone who wants to fly a drone beyond what is allowed for traditional model aircraft needs to apply for certification from the CAA.
"We have to assume that this RPAS pilot was unaware of the rules regarding flying unmanned aircraft," Mr Harris said.
"While RPAS technology is advancing quickly and offers some very significant benefits to a range of industries, it can pose a threat to conventional aviation activities and this must be carefully managed," he said."
Air NZ condemns drone operator | SBS News
Kaiapoi is 17 km north of the departure airport (Christchurch), at 2-4 metres above seal level.
Dean
"A large red drone flew too close to an Air NZ aircraft on Friday night and authorities are after the operator who they think was in Kaiapoi."
Source: AAP
26 SEP 2015
"Air New Zealand says the operator of a drone put its customers and staff at risk and should have the courage to come forward.
The Civil Aviation Authority says a "sizeable" red drone that on Friday passed close to an Air NZ A320 plane with 166 passengers on board as it climbed out of Christchurch en route to Auckland is being recorded as a near miss.
Air NZ says no evasive action was taken by the pilot of flight NZ542 but customers and staff were put at risk.
"What our pilot believed to be a drone was being operated in and around the flight path, but was fortunately spotted by our pilots who ensured the aircraft avoided it," said Captain David Morgan, Air New Zealand's chief flight operations and safety officer.
"This was reckless behaviour by the drone operator who has so far not had the courage to come forward and address their behaviour with authorities."
Director of Civil Aviation Graeme Harris said the remotely piloted aircraft system (RPAS) passed close to the plane near Kaiapoi at an altitude of about 6000 feet.
CAA launched a full investigation shortly after the pilot reported the sighting and Transport Minister Simon Bridges was briefed on Friday night.
A new civil aviation rule for drones came into effect on August 1. Under the rule, anyone who wants to fly a drone beyond what is allowed for traditional model aircraft needs to apply for certification from the CAA.
"We have to assume that this RPAS pilot was unaware of the rules regarding flying unmanned aircraft," Mr Harris said.
"While RPAS technology is advancing quickly and offers some very significant benefits to a range of industries, it can pose a threat to conventional aviation activities and this must be carefully managed," he said."
Air NZ condemns drone operator | SBS News
The FAA proposes a $1.9 million civil penalty against drone operator
http://www.faa.gov/news/press_releases/news_story.cfm?newsId=19555
Averages out at a penalty of $20k per flight.
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Averages out at a penalty of $20k per flight.
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