Air2000 emergency landing after passenger spots hole in wing
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I've got to say though - having thought about LastMinutes post (Welcome to Pprune, by the way - I see it's your first) - some of what the fire chief told me did strike an "odd chord".
The part about leaving everybody on board whilst they assessed the fire situation (as per TShirts post) did strike me as being a little odd.
Fire chief did say that they didn't want to put the aircraft next to the terminal building until the fire risk had been properly evaluated - so they left it on the runway. Sounded strange.
Was also surprised at the comment of "aircraft powered itself to the stand". I thought Sanford was all tug operations for getting onto stand. Surely if routine operation is to tug the aircraft onto stand, they would not let it self park on that same stand after an undercarriage emergency which could well have affected brakes and/or steering.
The part about leaving everybody on board whilst they assessed the fire situation (as per TShirts post) did strike me as being a little odd.
Fire chief did say that they didn't want to put the aircraft next to the terminal building until the fire risk had been properly evaluated - so they left it on the runway. Sounded strange.
Was also surprised at the comment of "aircraft powered itself to the stand". I thought Sanford was all tug operations for getting onto stand. Surely if routine operation is to tug the aircraft onto stand, they would not let it self park on that same stand after an undercarriage emergency which could well have affected brakes and/or steering.
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GW,
give it a rest, pal. why are you trying to sensationalize this story?
"The part about leaving everybody on board whilst they assessed the fire situation"
they were making sure that the brakes werent overheated before the a/c taxied itself onto stand. there was nothing dramatic about the situation and the pax were never in any danger. if anything, the fire/rescue overreacted a little. thats ok. better safe than sorry.
from your comments it sounds like you either work for the SAA or GOAA. either way, your comments regarding SFB or wrong.
"Was also surprised at the comment of "aircraft powered itself to the stand". I thought Sanford was all tug operations for getting onto stand."
nope, two of the 12 stands are towed-in stands. a/c taxi on to the stands just like at other airports.
"Surely if routine operation is to tug the aircraft onto stand, they would not let it self park on that same stand after an undercarriage emergency which could well have affected brakes and/or steering."
it wasnt an undercarriage emergency. the aircraft was never in any danger. the aircraft landed close to max landing weight so the fire crew made sure the brakes were ok. the flight crew and fire crew took the 20 minutes or so after landing to determine that everything was ok, which it was. they taxied to the gate, went to the hotel and slept peacefully. let it go.
i think it's pretty safe to say that Charlton Heston wont be starring in this "Airport 2002" movie. (maybe Leslie Nielson in "Airplane 2002")
give it a rest, pal. why are you trying to sensationalize this story?
"The part about leaving everybody on board whilst they assessed the fire situation"
they were making sure that the brakes werent overheated before the a/c taxied itself onto stand. there was nothing dramatic about the situation and the pax were never in any danger. if anything, the fire/rescue overreacted a little. thats ok. better safe than sorry.
from your comments it sounds like you either work for the SAA or GOAA. either way, your comments regarding SFB or wrong.
"Was also surprised at the comment of "aircraft powered itself to the stand". I thought Sanford was all tug operations for getting onto stand."
nope, two of the 12 stands are towed-in stands. a/c taxi on to the stands just like at other airports.
"Surely if routine operation is to tug the aircraft onto stand, they would not let it self park on that same stand after an undercarriage emergency which could well have affected brakes and/or steering."
it wasnt an undercarriage emergency. the aircraft was never in any danger. the aircraft landed close to max landing weight so the fire crew made sure the brakes were ok. the flight crew and fire crew took the 20 minutes or so after landing to determine that everything was ok, which it was. they taxied to the gate, went to the hotel and slept peacefully. let it go.
i think it's pretty safe to say that Charlton Heston wont be starring in this "Airport 2002" movie. (maybe Leslie Nielson in "Airplane 2002")
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Actually LMD, not entirely right. All SFB stands are power-in if the aircraft is of an appropriate size. For A330s up, where the airlines prefer having the second door to the jetway, stands 4 and 5 are towed in because of engine proximity problems. 767s / DC-10s downwards can power into these stands the same as all the others. The exception is A300s which are always towed in but they are very rarely used on UK-SFB routes.The reason 1-3 are not towed in is simply because they never experience aircraft bigger than a 767/DC10! If that were not the case, however, the same rule would apply.
And if GW worked for SAA then he wouldn't post incorrect information regarding the airport that that organization runs and manages would he?
All your other information I agree with.
LMC, a quick read of my post will show it corroborates with yours, giving the truth to the free people of the world.
SFly
And if GW worked for SAA then he wouldn't post incorrect information regarding the airport that that organization runs and manages would he?
All your other information I agree with.
LMC, a quick read of my post will show it corroborates with yours, giving the truth to the free people of the world.
SFly
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this may have happened a while ago, but some of the press have just heard about it. Got the radio on while on this site, and radio 1 just announced it, interviewing the passenger who "saved everyones life".
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SFly,
you are correct. i should have said 2 of the gates are "possible " tow in gates.
i just get sick and tired of uninformed types trying to make something out of nothing.
you are correct. i should have said 2 of the gates are "possible " tow in gates.
i just get sick and tired of uninformed types trying to make something out of nothing.
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This message is a double edged sword....I get hurt for posting it - or get hurt for not doing.
I just went back further than I usually do in the forums - because I remembered this story.
I was somewhat dumbfounded by the comments of LMC as to my "sensationalising the story".....so I went back to page one to cut and paste the comment that I'm convinced I said at the start of this thread - which said "this is no great sensational story" - it was a fairly routine deal. Crew knew nothing about it, pax were not in danger.
Couldn't find a thing about it - but I'm convinced that I wrote it. Maybe pressed the wrong buttons afterwards and deleted instead of posting - but I'm convinced I wrote it.
Think of two things: This thread had faded away into the history of the forum - but I brought it back just to say that I never did believe it was a major story....rather than just keep quiet, and..
If I had really wanted to make a sensation out of it, I would have posted on the Saturday morning when I'd worked with the Fire Chief.
My "uninformed comments" were actually limited impressions - as every time I've had the pleasure of flying into SFB in anything bigger than a Seminole (and it is a pleasure relative to MCO), we have been towed onto stand. Every time - hence my impression (apparently false) that the airport was all "tow in"
I just went back further than I usually do in the forums - because I remembered this story.
I was somewhat dumbfounded by the comments of LMC as to my "sensationalising the story".....so I went back to page one to cut and paste the comment that I'm convinced I said at the start of this thread - which said "this is no great sensational story" - it was a fairly routine deal. Crew knew nothing about it, pax were not in danger.
Couldn't find a thing about it - but I'm convinced that I wrote it. Maybe pressed the wrong buttons afterwards and deleted instead of posting - but I'm convinced I wrote it.
Think of two things: This thread had faded away into the history of the forum - but I brought it back just to say that I never did believe it was a major story....rather than just keep quiet, and..
If I had really wanted to make a sensation out of it, I would have posted on the Saturday morning when I'd worked with the Fire Chief.
My "uninformed comments" were actually limited impressions - as every time I've had the pleasure of flying into SFB in anything bigger than a Seminole (and it is a pleasure relative to MCO), we have been towed onto stand. Every time - hence my impression (apparently false) that the airport was all "tow in"
