MH17 down near Donetsk
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This was flight MH017 from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur. 250 passengers and 15 crew members. Very very sad. It disappeared from radar at Russia Ukraine border near the city of Rostov on Don. Registration is 9M-MRD a Boeing 777-200

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There was a ukranian military cargo aircraft shot down a few days ago at 6,500m..then the fighter earlier today?.....now this at 10,000m. Must be connected. Right in the middle of the conflict area.

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If true - this is a huge game changer in that conflict and desperately sad for all involved. I can't see a hand held getting to FL33 which makes it look military rather than militant.
There is a notam at the moment whenever I look at routes on Skydemon warning about the airspace on that border. Is this within that area and are most carriers avoiding the area as a matter of course?
There is a notam at the moment whenever I look at routes on Skydemon warning about the airspace on that border. Is this within that area and are most carriers avoiding the area as a matter of course?

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There aren't too many missiles that will hit an airliner at cruise altitude. Certainly not the average MANPAD that a rebel group would have.
It has to be a large SAM with associated ground support and guidance equipment, usually government military run.
It has to be a large SAM with associated ground support and guidance equipment, usually government military run.

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News here saying at-altitude incident - with a descent - then a bunch of taking heads are saying a missile strike @ 21000ft. Military analyst on TV news saying this was likely shot down.

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oh no: MAS confirms lost contact - https://twitter.com/MAS/status/489795857101750272

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suspected video of crashsite (from distance, UNCONFIRMED)

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Now there are reports of the BUK missile system being installed recently and the altitude that it was taken down from was 31000. Apparently there were several incidents in the last week with military planes in Ukraine having been shot down.

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Another MH 777 down over Ukraine
Another MH 777 has just been lost over eastern Ukraine. It fell in the contested eastern part of Ukraine, where fighting has been going on and near where an Ukrainian military aircraft was downed recently.
Speculations have started about a SAM missile strike, possibly launched by the separatists rebels, themselves militarily backed by Russia.
I have a feeling this will escalate politically very quickly.
It is a tragic stint of bad luck for MH. RIP to all lost.
I was wondering why our routing from London had us fly North over Denmark rather than the usual central European route over Ukraine the other day... I guess no one tipped MH?
Grab yourself a beer, this is about to get interesting.
Speculations have started about a SAM missile strike, possibly launched by the separatists rebels, themselves militarily backed by Russia.
I have a feeling this will escalate politically very quickly.
It is a tragic stint of bad luck for MH. RIP to all lost.
I was wondering why our routing from London had us fly North over Denmark rather than the usual central European route over Ukraine the other day... I guess no one tipped MH?
Grab yourself a beer, this is about to get interesting.

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on Flightradar24 the skys are busy over the Ukraine at the moment. Its likely that any NOTAM published regarding the conflict has not been robust enough to prevent civilian Airlines giving the entire area a wide birth. Terrible tragedy for any airline, but particularly devestating for MAS.

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Video of alleged crash sight of Malaysian Boeing in Shakhyorsk, Ukraine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JhUkqs9CQ0w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=JhUkqs9CQ0w
