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Can navigation lights on a 777 be disabled from the cockpit?
Nothing can be disabled from the cockpit. All of the switches are fake. They are only there for show. The pilots can control nothing. It's all an illusion to make the flying public feel safer.
The pilots are actors.
It's all a show controlled from the ground, and choreographed through the transponder.
If the routing IGARI-VAMPI-GIVAL-IGREX is indeed correct, we're looking at a routing that is NOT following any high altitude airways. At 450kts GSP, this routing would have taken 1.5h, this another 2.5h short of when the pings ended. And at FL295…? This is looking more and more like a deliberate action to me.
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I just don't see that many suspicious sleepers in the passenger list.
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I thought there was a confirmed Chinese Uigher on board, from the same minority group that includes some terrorist activists who (apparently) murdered 29 at a train station in China a fortnight ago?
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I just don't see that many suspicious sleepers in the passenger list.
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I thought there was a confirmed Chinese Uigher on board, from the same minority group that includes some terrorist activists who (apparently) murdered 29 at a train station in China a fortnight ago?
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Seriously I have been reading this thread over the last few days and really with those that are so hung up on the whole flight sim issue I must say I'm quite disappointed.
I know a lot of professional pilots who use or have built flight sims at home, some due to passion of flying and some just to practice emergency procedures and approaches on the types they fly if they are feeling a little rusty.
The fact he has a home built sim really has nothing to do with the issue.
I know a lot of professional pilots who use or have built flight sims at home, some due to passion of flying and some just to practice emergency procedures and approaches on the types they fly if they are feeling a little rusty.
The fact he has a home built sim really has nothing to do with the issue.
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Not sure if this post will stay but I have a question I'd like to ask: How are the professional pilots taking this ongoing story? Is it all that's talked about? Does the not-knowing make you nervous when you turn up for work? As a non-pilot I can hardly begin to image how un-nerving this occurrence must be and I am curious as to how you deal with this on a daily basis 
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50 pax at 75kgs (just an approximation of average weight) each plus 20kgs baggage would be a possible 4750kgs of freight. 1kg gold is currently about £27,000 GBP. Of course we have no idea what the freight was or whether it had any bearing on this ongoing mystery
Mention has been made that although the flight was not full (with 50 or more unoccupied seats) there were passengers who flew standby. The reason given for this in this thread was that cargo uplift may have limited passenger capacity.
Question - how often does routine cargo on a passenger flight displace this much passenger uplift capacity?
If it was revealed that the cargo included a heavy valuable substance weighing as much as 50 passengers and their baggage, how many reading this thread would change their mind as to likely cause?
Question - how often does routine cargo on a passenger flight displace this much passenger uplift capacity?
If it was revealed that the cargo included a heavy valuable substance weighing as much as 50 passengers and their baggage, how many reading this thread would change their mind as to likely cause?
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From WSJ, not clear if pings did actually transmit data or were just pinging. Data would have included altitude, heading, speed etc if actually received.
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As a retired senior detective and AVSEC specialist, I laugh when somebody says they can't spot too many, sleepers in the PAX manifest.
If it were as easy to catch hijackers by reading down the PAX manifest, we'd catch them all easily.
Hijackers don't necessarily have the same profile as your average terrorist. Why? Because not all hijackers are terrorists.
As for the crew, the captain and first officer have nothing, it seems, in common. There is a large age gap. There is a large disparity in experience. One appears to be a man dedicated to his job, the other a bit of a playboy (if earlier reports are at all accurate).
And no one planning this type of op would have drawn attention to himself by publicizing that he had a fairly good mock simulator in his house.
If the aircraft has been nicked, its more likely to be via hijacking.
If it were as easy to catch hijackers by reading down the PAX manifest, we'd catch them all easily.
Hijackers don't necessarily have the same profile as your average terrorist. Why? Because not all hijackers are terrorists.
As for the crew, the captain and first officer have nothing, it seems, in common. There is a large age gap. There is a large disparity in experience. One appears to be a man dedicated to his job, the other a bit of a playboy (if earlier reports are at all accurate).
And no one planning this type of op would have drawn attention to himself by publicizing that he had a fairly good mock simulator in his house.
If the aircraft has been nicked, its more likely to be via hijacking.
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Then why FL295? Because they were possibly transiting an area where the Quadrangal rule is in effect and they wanted to be sure that they didn't hit anything coming the other way, because this is in effect up to FL290 (see the Malaysian AIP). So why not fly at FL355? Possible because other planes flying at FL340 - 360 could see them pass relatively close under them and advise ATC of a "near miss"?
So, a report of FL295 from primary radar could easily be an aircraft cruising at FL280, FL290, FL300 or FL310 based on its barometric altimeter.
Does the not-knowing make you nervous when you turn up for work?
I am curious as to how you deal with this on a daily basis
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So the captain builds and flies an advanced sim on his off days instead of going to the mosque 5 times a day - and HE is the suspect one!!?? Get real!
It's been 2000 posts since I last contributed, and whereas I truely appreciate the input from fellow professionals, from the aviation industry and others, I can't help but being angered by those writing here with the only purpose of satisfying their own curiosity and/or writing mindless nonsense. GO AWAY! Find another forum. Or stay. Read.. And learn.
It's been 2000 posts since I last contributed, and whereas I truely appreciate the input from fellow professionals, from the aviation industry and others, I can't help but being angered by those writing here with the only purpose of satisfying their own curiosity and/or writing mindless nonsense. GO AWAY! Find another forum. Or stay. Read.. And learn.
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As a retired senior detective and AVSEC specialist, I laugh when somebody says they can't spot too many, sleepers in the PAX manifest.
If it were as easy to catch hijackers by reading down the PAX manifest, we'd catch them all easily.
Hijackers don't necessarily have the same profile as your average terrorist. Why? Because not all hijackers are terrorists.
As for the crew, the captain and first officer have nothing, it seems, in common. There is a large age gap. There is a large disparity in experience. One appears to be a man dedicated to his job, the other a bit of a playboy (if earlier reports are at all accurate).
And no one planning this type of op would have drawn attention to himself by publicizing that he had a fairly good mock simulator in his house.
If the aircraft has been nicked, its more likely to be via hijacking.
If it were as easy to catch hijackers by reading down the PAX manifest, we'd catch them all easily.
Hijackers don't necessarily have the same profile as your average terrorist. Why? Because not all hijackers are terrorists.
As for the crew, the captain and first officer have nothing, it seems, in common. There is a large age gap. There is a large disparity in experience. One appears to be a man dedicated to his job, the other a bit of a playboy (if earlier reports are at all accurate).
And no one planning this type of op would have drawn attention to himself by publicizing that he had a fairly good mock simulator in his house.
If the aircraft has been nicked, its more likely to be via hijacking.
Or would you prefer to help eliminate them from the enquiry by checking for any evidence?
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but no two flights/accidents are the same and my job is to prevent another one from happening, not worrying about one I have no influence over.
Also. I am taking Cockpit Entry Procedures a bit more seriously at the moment!
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This seems a very clever job. Disappear at handover, change route a couple of times. Disable all communications.
The Malaysians and the US for sure know more than willing to tell the public. Too many smokescreens and confirm/unconfirms of leads. I am pretty sure those satellite images released by error by a Chinese state agency was another smoke screen to win time.
911 has proven the capabilities of Taliban. They know about aircraft. They never claimed the attacks.
What about hijacking the plane to a Taliban controlled area in Pakistan?
Or more likely just ditch the aircraft in a part of the Indian Ocean being certain it will be hard if not impossible to find?
Or was it heading for Karachi or a city in India and shot down?
Most passengers were Chinese. Uighur/Taliban terrorist attack?
The Malaysians and the US for sure know more than willing to tell the public. Too many smokescreens and confirm/unconfirms of leads. I am pretty sure those satellite images released by error by a Chinese state agency was another smoke screen to win time.
911 has proven the capabilities of Taliban. They know about aircraft. They never claimed the attacks.
What about hijacking the plane to a Taliban controlled area in Pakistan?
Or more likely just ditch the aircraft in a part of the Indian Ocean being certain it will be hard if not impossible to find?
Or was it heading for Karachi or a city in India and shot down?
Most passengers were Chinese. Uighur/Taliban terrorist attack?
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so annoying to see these posts about the Capt and his flight sim hobby. What the heck! We fly airplane, love airplane (for most) and many of us have flight sim as a hobby. All these non-aviation people fishing for stuff on here need to use their brain a tiny bit: he's already a T7 captain, he doesn't need a home flight sim to learn how to hijack his own flight.
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According to Shah's friends, he knew the ins and the outs of the Boeing 777 extremely well as he was always practising with a flight simulator of the plane he had set up at his home, Reuters reported.
We fly airplane, love airplane (for most)
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How are the professional pilots taking this ongoing story? Is it all that's talked about? Does the not-knowing make you nervous when you turn up for work? As a non-pilot I can hardly begin to image how un-nerving this occurrence must be and I am curious as to how you deal with this on a daily basis
I'd say that although it will be a topic for discussion and much speculation, it will be business as usual.
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Its not a crime to have a flight sim
For the love of god, pilots have flight sims,
i am a simply student pilot and i use my flight sim day in a day out practicing and refreshing on procedures and at $700 a nav flight its smarter to practice my navigation on a flight sim with my ipad
how do you think a Airline pilot practices? i wonder what the going rate for a 777 per hour is
i practice aproaches and even emergency situations so that i am ready for when the worst happens "excluding the wings falling off of couse"
it is very common place for any pilot to have a flight sim
drop the nonsence
i am a simply student pilot and i use my flight sim day in a day out practicing and refreshing on procedures and at $700 a nav flight its smarter to practice my navigation on a flight sim with my ipad
how do you think a Airline pilot practices? i wonder what the going rate for a 777 per hour is
i practice aproaches and even emergency situations so that i am ready for when the worst happens "excluding the wings falling off of couse"
it is very common place for any pilot to have a flight sim
drop the nonsence