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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:23
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Seems like the coordinates would be approximately:

N 18 40, E 107 40


Isn't that off the north Vietnam coast? Doesn't seem right.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:25
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Martin,

For clarification, are both ATC, Malaysia and Vietnam only relying on Transponder?
primary radar is used for approach control, eg at VVTS, but not built to cover entire oceans. There's certain physical limitations on radar range
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:26
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However, flying at 500 metres (1500 ft) or lower, the crew judged the slick not to be oil.
I would have thought that'd be obvious. Aviation Turbine fuel is clear, and an aircraft wouldn't carry anywhere near enough "oil" to make that slick.

Originally Posted by Capt Groper
The BBC pics of possible oil skick looks more like red tidal algee
or Coral Reef spawn...very similar colour.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:27
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Barrel owl

Links to Dantri and Thanh Nien


Here's a map of the most interesting sightings so far. The red pins are from today.



Keep in mind that as far as I'm aware, there is still no confirmation that any of this (except the last known position) would belong to MH370. Patience...
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N 18 40, E 107 40

Isn't that off the north Vietnam coast? Doesn't seem right.

Appears to be right in the middle of china....
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:29
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Malaysia DCA is leading the SAR.

Singapore only assisting with assets.
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Freescale Semiconductor managers on board

About 20 top management employees from semiconductor company Freescale Semiconductor (with HQ in Austin, TX,) were among 38 Malaysians onboard MAS flight MH370.

Read full article here:
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primary radar is used for approach control, eg at VVTS, but not built to cover entire oceans.
Fag-packet max range for raw radar will be in the order of 200 nm for high-flying aircraft, usually quite a bit less.
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@ snowfalcon2

Thanks a lot for the infos and the screenshot.
Yes, no confirmed debris so far, only suspicious objects spotted.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:33
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Submarines to search? sure, the sonar may yield something but it's got to be a WTF moment here! Even if they find something, surely they won't be surfacing and collecting the debris.
Sure hope it isn't an opportunity to go to where they normally don't get to go...
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:35
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No Submarines involved.

Learn to filter out the BS.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:37
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Well according to a Singapore Airforce mate the Sing Navy operate Subs in that exact area and were probably in or near the area at the time. He said they would be useful in locating debris on the sea floor using their active Sonar, advanced local knowledge and would most likely join in the search.

Yes they are being used.
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Would there be someone lurking here who would have knowledge of Malaysian (and Vietnamese) primary radar coverage ? My understanding is that the typical maximum range of current civilian PSR is about 60 miles, question is where are the facilities located.
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Would there be someone lurking here who would have knowledge of Malaysian (and Vietnamese) primary radar coverage ? My understanding is that the typical maximum range of current civilian PSR is about 60 miles, question is where are the facilities located.

http://aip.dca.gov.my/aip%20pdf/ENR/...1.6/Enr1_6.pdf

A bit dated, but I don't think it'd change dramatically.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:46
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Update - Photo of suspected debris

This is a picture from Dantri of the "window liner" object that was sighted just before nightfall today.



Interesting rainbow pattern on the sea as well, might indicate oil but hard to tell.
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Another one.... Just released by India Today. Not sure it makes perfect sense, but...

Mystery around the 154 Chinese passengers on board the missing Malaysian airliner deepened today with a Chinese man, who was believed to be among those on the flight, saying he did not even board the jet, state media has reported.

The Chinese police said one of the persons listed did not board the ill-fated Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing on Friday. The person, a resident of Fujian Province in east China, has no departure record and is still in Fujian, Chinese police said today.

The owner said the passport has never been lost or stolen.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:48
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Originally Posted by andrasz
Would there be someone lurking here who would have knowledge of Malaysian (and Vietnamese) primary radar coverage ? My understanding is that the typical maximum range of current civilian PSR is about 60 miles, question is where are the facilities located.
Why does it have to be civilian radar?

I can assure you that military early warning radars are designed to detect aircraft much further than the range you quoted and, unlike what some have said earlier, are very capable of utilising primary radar to determine the height of aircraft as well as bearing and range.
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:50
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ELT???

It looks like the ELTs failed miserably on both this and the AF447.
Anybody with a more specific knowledge dare to comment?
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Old 9th Mar 2014, 12:52
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Photo of Sea

As someone who does a lot more photography than flying these days, the colour of the sea (to me) looks more like low-light noise in the photo than anything else.
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To Codyblade

No Submarines involved.

Learn to filter out the BS.
Missing Malaysia Airlines plane: Singapore sends 2 warships, naval helicopter to search for flight MH370

Learn to check for confirmation before you criticize.
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