Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

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Life Raft found
MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times
Would this be typical of one used in a B777?
Would this be typical of one used in a B777?

Re deanm #2157... (Air Helios B-737 crash)
"The emergency oxygen supply in the passenger cabin of this model of Boeing 737 is provided by chemical generators that provide enough oxygen, through breathing masks, to sustain consciousness for about 12 minutes, normally sufficient for an emergency descent to 10,000 feet (3,000 m), "
Was / is the 777 any different..??
"The emergency oxygen supply in the passenger cabin of this model of Boeing 737 is provided by chemical generators that provide enough oxygen, through breathing masks, to sustain consciousness for about 12 minutes, normally sufficient for an emergency descent to 10,000 feet (3,000 m), "
Was / is the 777 any different..??

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@Stormy & Porterhouse: I note that on Helios 522, SLF O2 masks deployed, but were seen dangling unused by F16 chase pilots .....
Helios Airways Flight 522 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Helios Airways Flight 522 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Emergency oxygen system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times
There's a photo there as well - is this a standard kit on the T7? Port Dickson is on the Straits of Malacca. If this belongs to MH370, this could get rather interesting.
There's a photo there as well - is this a standard kit on the T7? Port Dickson is on the Straits of Malacca. If this belongs to MH370, this could get rather interesting.

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MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times
PORT DICKSON: A group of fishermen found a life raft bearing the word “Boarding” 10 nautical miles from Port Dickson town at 12pm yesterday.
One of the fishermen, Azman Mohamad, 40, said they found the badly damaged raft floating and immediately notified the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Malacca for assistance to lift the raft as it was very heavy.
"We managed to tie it to our boat as we feared it would sink due to the damages," he said.
When the MMEA boat arrived, the fishermen then handed over the raft into their custody.
However, a Kuala Linggi MMEA spokesman said the raft sunk into the sea while they were trying to bring the raft onboard.
Read more: MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times
One of the fishermen, Azman Mohamad, 40, said they found the badly damaged raft floating and immediately notified the Kuala Linggi Malaysian Maritime Enforcement Agency (MMEA) in Malacca for assistance to lift the raft as it was very heavy.
"We managed to tie it to our boat as we feared it would sink due to the damages," he said.
When the MMEA boat arrived, the fishermen then handed over the raft into their custody.
However, a Kuala Linggi MMEA spokesman said the raft sunk into the sea while they were trying to bring the raft onboard.
Read more: MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times MISSING MH370: Hopes as fishermen find life raft near PD - Latest - New Straits Times

A group of fishermen found a life raft bearing the word “Boarding” 10 nautical miles from Port Dickson

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It seems very disorganised by the Malaysian Government. Just reading below makes you shake your head at their incompetence over this incident:
Vietnam said it had halted its air search and scaled back a sea search while it waited for Malaysia to offer more detail.
“We’ve decided to temporarily suspend some search and rescue activities, pending information from Malaysia,” deputy minister of transport Pham Quy Tieu told AFP.
Asked about the claim that the plane had last been detected over the Strait of Malacca - suggesting it had crossed the entire peninsula - he replied: “We’ve asked Malaysian authorities twice, but so far they have not replied to us.
“We informed Malaysia on the day we lost contact with the flight that we noticed the flight turned back west but Malaysia did not respond.”
Malaysia’s air force chief denied telling a local newspaper that the aircraft was last detected at 2.40am on the western coast of the Malay peninsula by a military radar - a detail confirmed to news agencies by at least one unnamed military official.
“We’ve decided to temporarily suspend some search and rescue activities, pending information from Malaysia,” deputy minister of transport Pham Quy Tieu told AFP.
Asked about the claim that the plane had last been detected over the Strait of Malacca - suggesting it had crossed the entire peninsula - he replied: “We’ve asked Malaysian authorities twice, but so far they have not replied to us.
“We informed Malaysia on the day we lost contact with the flight that we noticed the flight turned back west but Malaysia did not respond.”
Malaysia’s air force chief denied telling a local newspaper that the aircraft was last detected at 2.40am on the western coast of the Malay peninsula by a military radar - a detail confirmed to news agencies by at least one unnamed military official.

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Andrasz wrote:
Looks that way to me too - it's been in the water a while as well as the top is faded and the ropes are filthy. It certainly matches a maritime one.
An aircraft evacuation slide looks rather different from my point of view. I'm sure though the media will report in breathlessly.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but the photo seems to show a maritime life-raft rather than one used in aviation.
An aircraft evacuation slide looks rather different from my point of view. I'm sure though the media will report in breathlessly.

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Griffo: if the masks weren't donned (as per Helios) it doesn't matter how long the O2 supply could potentially sustain passengers/cabin crew....
If I were (legitimately or otherwise) up front wearing cockpit O2/smoke mask before manual depress, I would expect my emergency O2 supply to last considerably longer than that for SLF....
If I were (legitimately or otherwise) up front wearing cockpit O2/smoke mask before manual depress, I would expect my emergency O2 supply to last considerably longer than that for SLF....

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life raft
all life raft i've seen installed on widebody have light gray color. Life raft found at Port Dickson is black so this is not the typical life raft on large commercial jet. Its likely that this is use by marine vessels.
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...ash-asiana.jpg
http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...ash-asiana.jpg

Hang on.....the Vietnamese Authorites are now saying that when the aircraft first went missing, they tracked it going west and they told the Malaysians, but they did not respond back to them.
As each hour passes, a huge cover up seems to be more and more possible.
As each hour passes, a huge cover up seems to be more and more possible.

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Let us also not forget Port Dickson's location in relation to KUL. Even if the source of the raft were ambiguous, that seems much too south. Combined with the amount of ship traffic through that area, it would appear completely unrelated.

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Hang on.....the Vietnamese Authorites are now saying that when the aircraft first went missing, they tracked it going west and they told the Malaysians, but they did not respond back to them.
As each hour passes, a huge cover up seems to be more and more possible.
As each hour passes, a huge cover up seems to be more and more possible.
Agree - its currently operation cover-up going on.


Interesting data points, and all so late in the piece.
A note on the oil rig spotting: The range estimate of 50-70km is way too far to identify an aircraft visually. A bright fire you could see that far no problem, but you would not be able to say that it was an aircraft. And at 50km a fire that bright would be pretty fearsome.
I have been spending my life squinting to see known aircraft at known distances and about ten miles is the limit to make out the shape. You can see strobe lights at 20 nm from a very dark vantage point.
So, what did he see?
A note on the oil rig spotting: The range estimate of 50-70km is way too far to identify an aircraft visually. A bright fire you could see that far no problem, but you would not be able to say that it was an aircraft. And at 50km a fire that bright would be pretty fearsome.
I have been spending my life squinting to see known aircraft at known distances and about ten miles is the limit to make out the shape. You can see strobe lights at 20 nm from a very dark vantage point.
So, what did he see?
