Thai A330 accident at BKK
Originally Posted by ZFT
I understand that the left engine is undamaged...
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I wonder if this has something to do with the way the A330 trucks are angled quite steeply, with the rear tires acting as a pivot axis and the entire weight of the airplane being suddenly born by the beams when the front wheels make contact? The 6-wheel trucks on the 777 also have tires in the middle to soften the blow. In A330 landings, it seems the wing has a tendency to want to stay flying, then the lift is killed and the plane settles hard on the beams.
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If the newer A345s mothballed at Don Muang and the firing of the only competent CEO and the opening of Puff & Pie and all the other nonsense that goes on at TG corporate tell you anything, it's that you can't apply common sense to their decisions. There's no predicting what exactly they'll do except keep offering free flights to politicians and the military by regulation.
The cure for that is to de-rotate and land the front bogie before pulling reverse.
Not what he means Bloggsy:---ideally to make a smoother landing on the crap330 after the trailing wheels touch you quickly de-rotate ( push forward a little ) to fly the forward wheels on before they crunch down under the spoilers.
Re-rotating quickly as well as delaying selecting reverse until its complete makes it a smoother affair!!!
It takes a bit of fineness to do correctly and a bit hit and miss, you do a good landing one day and exactly the same thing a day later and.............
No where near as consistently smooth as the mighty 747 or even the 777.( ER was the best of the 777's to land )
Re-rotating quickly as well as delaying selecting reverse until its complete makes it a smoother affair!!!
It takes a bit of fineness to do correctly and a bit hit and miss, you do a good landing one day and exactly the same thing a day later and.............
No where near as consistently smooth as the mighty 747 or even the 777.( ER was the best of the 777's to land )
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Not what he means Bloggsy:---ideally to make a smoother landing on the crap330 after the trailing wheels touch you quickly de-rotate ( push forward a little ) to fly the forward wheels on before they crunch down under the spoilers.
Bwahahaha.
Release a bit of the back pressure, yes, but push forward!
Jeez some people write crap on here.
Bwahahaha
Crap???? Really???? I've done well over 1000 successful landings in the Bus and yes most guys with experience ( sometimes me too !!! ) not only relax the back pressure but push forward a little after touchdown. Not too much mind you, but yes push a little carefully to fly the front wheels on smoothly. It takes a little confidence and understanding, but its done.
Maybe if you weren't just a backseat driver you'd actually know what you are talking about mate.
Now go and make the bunk, if I want your advice I'll give it to you!!
Maybe if you weren't just a backseat driver you'd actually know what you are talking about mate.
Now go and make the bunk, if I want your advice I'll give it to you!!
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Feeling a little inadequate by the sound of your last post np330?
You say pushing forward during the landing flare is ideal.
I challenge you or anyone to show an Airbus FCOM passage that recommends that technique as the IDEAL.
Ps I've never had to make a bunk, and I would never seek your advice, considering the 'Big Noting' BS you write here.
You say pushing forward during the landing flare is ideal.
I challenge you or anyone to show an Airbus FCOM passage that recommends that technique as the IDEAL.
Ps I've never had to make a bunk, and I would never seek your advice, considering the 'Big Noting' BS you write here.
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No where near as consistently smooth as the mighty 747
It was state of the art to angle the trucks, today on the A380 for example they have a negative angle touching down first with the front wheels. Lessons learned. Except for the Dreamliner of course
It was state of the art to angle the trucks, today on the A380 for example they have a negative angle touching down first with the front wheels. Lessons learned. Except for the Dreamliner of course
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Bloggsie, you very funny man. Over the years a few of us have tried rolling it on in the 76, but only ever once.
Doesn't work in a 74 or a 380 either, but it did on the 72 (734 too).
Gentlemen all I wanted to do was make a distinction between relaxing back pressure and 'pushing forward'.
'Rolling it on' never ever involved PUSHING FORWARD.
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Doesn't work in a 74 or a 380 either, but it did on the 72 (734 too).
Gentlemen all I wanted to do was make a distinction between relaxing back pressure and 'pushing forward'.
'Rolling it on' never ever involved PUSHING FORWARD.
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