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US shuts down EU Carbon Tax for US Airlines

Old 14th Oct 2012, 12:48
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Those whole green, carbon, environment blah taxes and deductions are just nonsense.
It's entirely driven by ideology and by governments wanting to draw even more money from people for the sake of allegedly saving the world.

Most "scientific" reports and statistics concerning global warming and the impact of carbon dioxide are highly biased and usually compiled by a certain bunch of scientists which are known to ideologically support the politically desired outcome of climatological investigations.

Businesses are trying to jump onto the climate bandwaggon and make money from it.

It's all about money and forcing a certain way of thinking upon people.
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Old 14th Oct 2012, 17:03
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The Gold/Carbon standards.

Gold is rare. Carbon is plentiful. How do we monetize a sooty dirty life supporting and ubiquitous Element? By artificially controlling its uses.

People everywhere utilize Carbon, from wood fireplaces, to jet travel.

If one could only capture and control the use of such ubiquitous matter?

By pretending that it is harmful. If I can convince you that air is life shortening (people have), I can sell you your air. If I can convince you that water is rare, I can sell it to you at enormous profit.

And sit back in the leather recliner, and count my homes, while planning a trip to a conference where my fellow thieves congregate, to swap jokes and stories about the stupid sheep who have signed up for my products.

"Hey you, I think you are using too much air, you owe me taxes for your wasteful breathing....."

My name is Al, and I did not approve this message....
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I would definitely take anything published by the Daily Hate Mail with a pinch of salt.
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Old 15th Oct 2012, 09:16
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I would definitely take anything published by the Daily Hate Mail with a pinch of salt.
indeed the the Daily Fail reporting is a tad 'lacking' however the mail didn't create the data, they are reporting on the data which is:

"... regular data collected on global temperature is called Hadcrut 4, as it is jointly issued by the Met Office’s Hadley Centre and Prof Jones’s Climatic Research Unit."

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Old 15th Oct 2012, 09:32
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I would definitely take anything published by the Daily Hate Mail with a pinch of salt.
Then why not go off and check whether the data is correct or not, or is that too difficult? Or are you worried that you might find it's true thus destroying cherished beliefs?
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Then why not go off and check whether the data is correct or not, or is that too difficult? Or are you worried that you might find it's true thus destroying cherished beliefs?
a trifle harsh

he didn't say they lied, all he said was he didn't trust them based on his past experiences.

I'm happy to read both positive experiences as well as negative before my judgements in this case.
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a trifle harsh
True, but it's apathy like that which has got us into this state of affairs, it's not until you start digging into things that you realise what a mess climate science has got itself into and how politicised it's become.

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At last sense has prevailed well sort of.

From the BBC:

EU suspends aircraft emissions trading rules

The European Union has agreed to suspend its rules that require airlines flying to and from airports in the EU to pay for their carbon emissions.

The rules had been unpopular with countries outside Europe such as the US, China and India.

Climate commissioner Connie Hedegaard said she had proposed "stopping the clock for one year".

She said the suspension was due to progress being made in negotiations on a global emissions deal.

But she added that if the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) did not make progress towards a global deal by this time next year the European tax would be reintroduced.


BBC News - EU suspends aircraft emissions trading rules
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