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AMR will consider US Airways merger

Old 2nd Sep 2012, 07:34
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Seniority AA style.

The merger of seniority will be very easy this time. American Airlines has always made the merger of pilot groups a simple task. The airline that is "bought" is merely stapled to the bottom of the list. The American pilots prefered this method with the purchase of Reno Air, and TWA. This will make for both a happy and healthy airline. AA pilots keep their tried and tested seniority integration model, and US Airways pilots all become wide-body pilots. Any furloughs will be On the AA side. Just like TWA, they would have lost their jobs anyways. It worked before for AA, why not again!
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 16:32
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Yea, BA and Air France are really great
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 16:44
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Can someone please tell who now owns who in the U.S.
We have Delta or is it Continental etc etc etc....
They all seem to be squabbling and none have a world class product for the passenger eg ancient 757s with drop down movie screens being used on transatlantic services, how very soviet era! Charging for drinks in coach and surly crews.
I remember AA 1st class when you had a caviar trolley, roast garlic lamb, and even got your nuts warmed if you were lucky.
Surely it's a time to get your act together or get out.
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 17:03
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Witty comeback Spooky 2. Who mentioned BA or AF ???
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 17:58
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I remember AA 1st class when you had a caviar trolley, roast garlic lamb, and even got your nuts warmed if you were lucky.
AA will still warm yer nuts, no changes there.

Have not seen caviar trolleys lately, but I usually ride AA business class rather than first, warm nuts either way.
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 21:38
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I thought that up all by my self. Believe with a few notable exceptions the rest of the worlds airlines are little different than what we see here in the uS. The good news is that they are getting better, but still not likely to be as great as some here may be thinking of. The fact is you can get a lousy ride on ANY airline if you travel enough, which mens of course, your already screwed before you get on the airplane.
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Old 2nd Sep 2012, 22:49
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Reno Airlines was a staple because the last part of the list was going to be out of work.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 00:56
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Have you flown EK, SQ, or CX? Vastly better than US carriers for international service.

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I take it a "staple" for AA pilots is OK because they're going out of business? DOH is the ONLY sane system, that's why it is called a seniority list.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 01:05
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Can you read? I noted the exceptions. US carriers will never achieve these levels off service since they are under the various gubberment mandates as how they treat their employees. I have had service that sucked on all of the airlines none the less. I assume you work for one of these airlines?
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 01:31
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I remember AA 1st class when you had a caviar trolley, roast garlic lamb, and even got your nuts warmed if you were lucky.

AA will still warm yer nuts, no changes there.

Have not seen caviar trolleys lately, but I usually ride AA business class rather than first, warm nuts either way.

Tower Dog:

I think he had something else in mind....
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 01:37
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You assume wrong. SLF to meet my assigned plane.
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 04:47
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I think he had something else in mind....
Thanks for the heads up bit I kind of got the idea....
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Old 3rd Sep 2012, 07:53
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Well I was going back to the Crandall days when you had more choice of whiskey than a 5* hotel
However it must be getting confusing for the punter as to who is who these days. That cannot be doing much good in the long run.
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Old 9th Sep 2012, 02:56
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warm nuts

I remember the good old days of passenger flying...what happened is simply this:

MONEY...the cut rate airlines won and the other airlines have to lower themselves to the ways of the worst.

American Airlines has been less than proper in seniority integration...so has every airline I can think of.

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Old 9th Sep 2012, 06:36
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It is a Walmart world in the airline business today. Nobody wants to admit to shopping there but the prices are usually good. The good old days of everybody dressed to the hilt to fly are long gone. I remember back in the 80's when we were flying passengers from Burbank to San Francisco for the same price as a Greyhound bus ticket. Yup, they looked like Greyhound bus people exactly.
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 02:05
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I hate wal mart....but it carries one or two products that I can't get elsewhere...so I go once in awhile.

but I wish someone would start an airline that had a strict dress code, and charged enough to keep the riff raff off the planes by virtue o being too expensive.
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 02:34
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American Airlines has always made the merger of pilot groups a simple task. The airline that is "bought" is merely stapled to the bottom of the list.
Not so fast: Some TWA pilots got stapled to the bottom of the list, others went high up on the combined list and kept flying as captains. They also got to the top of AA's 12 year pay scale instantly.

Needless to say, you don't hear many complaints from the TWA guys who ended up as wide body AA captains instead of saying: "Would you like fries with that Sir?"

Get your facts straight before you post next time joejet
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 02:47
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Facts straight?

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Get your facts straight!

2/3 of the entire TWA seniority list was stapled behind an April 2001 new hire! Those that got w/b or n/b captain ONLY got it because they were forced to remain in the STL ghetto. If they left to any other base, they would be relegated to their APA/AA modified seniority number. Can you imagine a 1985 TWA hire Captain suddenly getting bumped to F/O then the street on furlough, while the other natives underneath him/her kept flying? Please don't distort the facts!
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 02:51
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Get your facts straight!
Uh, what did I say that was not factual...?
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Old 10th Sep 2012, 14:44
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I did hate one year when I had to pack a suit and tie on our 34 ft Searay to the Bahamas because I had to go to LAX for my daughters college graduation. By the time I got back to the Island leaving my wife in a safe port I looked like a total dork wearing long pants, black shoes carrying my coat and tie to the bar. By then my wife had made a lot of friends so explained how we had to non rev back then.

It is fun seeing how the celeb's dressed in the 40's and 50's. Nick Nolte now wears pajamas on his first class all nighters on AA.

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