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Old 4th Jun 2012, 09:19
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They were on approach to land in Lagos. That much is confirmed. What beats me is that as at 6pm yesterday, the flight manifest was all over social networks. Is this usually the case, is it released that early or was this a leak.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 09:28
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I've got a recording of an aircraft (OY-HSL) reporting the accident to Lagos ATC. Pilot:............ but we suspect there will be some injured people from the building into which they crashed"
ATC: wow. You suspect that the aircraft may have crashed and there will be no injured persons? Correction, no survivors but there may be injured persons from the building, confirm?
Pilot: affirm, the aircraft has crashed, we have confirmation of that and the only survivors we expect will come from the building into which they crashed
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Fuel starvation is a strong possibility, I dont have information on the MD83 but an aircraft of this size could have around a ton of ullage which is more than enough to account for the limited post crash fire.
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Crowd...

Very disappointing:

"Rescue and Recovery works are hampered by a large crowd gathered at the crash site, the rescue forces complaining the residents have taken over the crash site. The works are difficult by concrete buildings in danger of collapsing as result of impact by the aircraft and the resulting need to take these buildings down first and are further hampered by lack of equipment to move the aircraft debris."

From Crash: Dana MD83 at Lagos on Jun 3rd 2012, following Mayday call collided with power line on approach

Just view those lynch photos...
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 10:25
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The Dana air website is very vague about the size of their fleet. However from the looks on it they seem to have just a couple of MD 83 or probably just the one that went down. At the moment all flights are cancelled today leading me to think they had this one aircraft only which was being flogged on all the routes. That said would take a good close look at their operations, flight times and maintenance schedules.

Anyone have feedback on the size of the fleet?
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 10:41
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Sad...

From unknown newswire:

'Sunday's crash of the Dana Airline aircraft onthe Abuja-Lagos route has once again exposed the country's shoddy responseservice, as eye witnesses claimed that it took over 45 minutes before the firstrescue team, the police, arrived.

In that time, scores of looters had ravaged the crash site, picking off thepersonal effects of the victims. All occupants of the plane, made up of 153passengers and six crew members, died in the crash.

"People picked phones and things like that before when the fire was stillnot much," said an eyewitness, who did not want his name published.

The looters eventually gave way as the police arrived the scene, afterstruggling through the hundreds of onlookers that had appeared at the scene."
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 11:26
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Dana Air had 4 MD-83: the 5N-RAM (which crashed), 5N-JAI, 5N-SRI adn the 5N-SAI.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 11:56
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The map with civilized countries superposed on Africa is ludicrously inaccurate.
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Slowto280, not a surprise to hear that looters were on the scene. The lack of perspectives, couple with appalling conditions, make individuals in Nigeria very desperate and ready to do anything to survive. It is ridiculous but has its own root causes.
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Slowto280, not a surprise to hear that looters were on the scene. The lack of perspectives, couple with appalling conditions, make individuals in Nigeria very desperate and ready to do anything to survive. It is ridiculous but has its own root causes.

When NWA 255 crashed on take-off at KDTW (Detroit Michigan USA), the first responders encountered looters who had serious burns on their hands from turning over burning wreckage and grabbing what they could...and this crash was just immediately past the airport boundary.....in a "civilized" country...
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deSitter wrote: "The map with civilized countries superposed on Africa is ludicrously inaccurate."
[Whilst strongly wishing to avoid thread-creep] Err, 'ludicrously inaccurate' in what respect exactly (e.g. in it's proportions; or in some other metric which you haven't mentioned)?... and if you don't believe Africa's sheer size, might I suggest referring to a globe and having a good look for yourself (it's genuinely quite astounding!)... or is it perhaps that (to you) the world looks like this ?

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Had the job offer to go DANA a while ago - descreibed as a exotic location by Aeroprofessional - friend went, guess his heading home - has been unpaid for 3 months - old airframes, runned by Indians in Western Africa, saw DANA MD83 in SAW / Istanbul for heavy maintainance 3 weeks ago and it goes on ...... if - as rumours says - LH ex. AA MD driver - must be proper trained and skilled - rapports will blame him - none of the above - contract flying.
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OKC, I can read, and interpret, a map
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 13:24
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When NWA 255 crashed on take-off at KDTW (Detroit Michigan USA), the first responders encountered looters who had serious burns on their hands from turning over burning wreckage and grabbing what they could...and this crash was just immediately past the airport boundary.....in a "civilized" country...
Apparently you've never been to Detroit.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 13:29
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aterpster, I'm pretty familiar with this incident, and I don't remember any such report. NW crashed on a highway just outside the perimeter of the airport itself in an area not zoned for living space. There were no people around to loot anything.
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Seemingly some details (pics) of the crew and also pic (scroll down) of what could be one of the 'recorders'.
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On 11 May, a similar Dana Air plane - possibly the same one - developed a technical problem and was forced to make an emergency landing in Lagos, our correspondent says.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 14:14
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aterpster, I'm pretty familiar with this incident, and I don't remember any such report. NW crashed on a highway just outside the perimeter of the airport itself in an area not zoned for living space. There were no people around to loot anything.
Many pieces of the plane ended up on a highway and underpass. Lots of cars stopped on highway and people streamed down the embankments to the wreckage

never heard the story about looters though
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I'm curious if airline operators in Nigeria are allowed to fly into European airports.

If not, what are the reasons behind these circumstances.
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Old 4th Jun 2012, 14:18
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Seemingly some details (pics) of the crew and also pic (scroll down) of what could be one of the 'recorders'.
I don't recognize the recorder but thanks for the pic.

However I do feel uneasy about posting pics of the crew in the same link
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