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TSA - Pilots to be exempt from scanners & pat downs.

Old 19th Nov 2010, 22:57
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Thumbs up TSA - Pilots to be exempt from scanners & pat downs.

U.S. airline pilots learned today that they'll be exempt from the invasive x-ray screening and pat-downs that have sparked a revolt across the country.

In a statement, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) announced new procedures that it says will streamline airport security.

Pilots in uniform acting on airline business will be allowed to pass through airport security by showing two photo IDs. The identification will be cross-checked against a flight crew database.

"Allowing these uniformed pilots, whose identity has been verified, to go through expedited screening at the checkpoint just makes for smart security and an efficient use of our resources," TSA Administrator John Pistole said in a statement.

The decision comes after pilots' unions had called on members to avoid going through the advanced x-ray screeners that produce full-body images, and they had also expressed concerns about enhanced pat-downs. A handful of pilots have said they were so traumatized by the searches that they couldn't perform their duties, though critics have accused them of making such claims to push a political agenda.
source: ABC News

Still no relief for cabin crew.
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 23:08
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Very good.

But why do I need two forms of 'photo ID? Is the one issued to me by my airline security department after a criminal record and background check not deemed sufficient unless I've got my driving licence with me which, by the way, has NO security connotations and is easily copied?
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 23:51
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Thank you Allied Pilot's Association and others!
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Old 19th Nov 2010, 23:56
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I hope our friends in back, the flight attendants , get the same treatment.

Do you all recall when pilots first started going through security screening at all?

It was back in the days just after an ex employee of PSA (the original, not the commuter) got aboard a BAE146, went to the cockpit and shot both pilots while in flight.

the plane crashed, killing all aboard near Paso Robles, CA, USA.
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One lives in hope Mr. lifting.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 00:08
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Congratulations to the pilot group !! I hope the same for the Cabin Crew's!

They have taken our nail clippers but still allow us to have a Crash Axe.
These MORONS are allowed to grope little girls. (Does the word Pedophile mean anything)?
Back ground checks and Gov ID don't mean S#it.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 00:34
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Does the TSA hire screeners using a "don't ask, don't tell'' policy?
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"It was back in the days just after an ex employee of PSA (the original, not the commuter) got aboard a BAE146, went to the cockpit and shot both pilots while in flight."

This guy, David Burke, was a fired USAir ramper who decided to take out his former boss, a passenger on this flight. He used AN ID card still in his possession to bypass screening. As a result of his murder of the pilots & a planeload of people, pilots were required to be screened, while rampers were given continued access to the downstairs doors with NO screening.

This government reaction to his rampage was & continues to be BEYOND ABSURD!
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Pat-down woman forced to show fake breast

A breast cancer survivor says she was forced to take out her prosthetic breast and show it to US officials during a "horrific" airport pat down.

Cathy Bossi said she reluctantly went through the full-body scanners at Charlotte Douglas International Airport in August but was concerned about having added radiation put through her body.

The veteran flight attendant, who survived breast cancer three years ago, was then told she would have to have to go to a personal screening room.

Two female officials accompanied her and began an "aggressive" pat down but stopped when they reached Ms Bossi's breast.

"She put her full hand on my breast and said, 'What is this?' Bossi said.

"And I said, 'It's my prosthesis because I've had breast cancer.' And she said, 'Well, you'll need to show me that.'"

Ms Bossi said she had to remove her prosthetic breast from her bra and show it to the officer.

"I did not take the name of the person at the time because it was just so horrific an experience, I couldn't believe someone had done that to me," she said.

"I'm a flight attendant. I was just trying to get to work."

It is the latest in a string of incidents involving security pat downs in the US following the introduction of new procedures which critics have likened to sexual assault.

California man John Tyner filmed himself during a pat down, saying he would have the supervising officer arrested if he "touched his junk".


http://news.ninemsn.com.au/mobile/ar...c-36e1c4ec2e39
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Don't quit the protests and the "opt out" yet, not until total surrender by these goons! Nothing else, unconditional surrender.

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 02:53
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Good show!!

Seems the imbeciles at the TSA have a few brain cells to put together amongst themselves after all. Maybe someone there was smart enough to realise, when pilots get to their place of work, I.E., the aircraft they have an array of weapons to choose from. Axe, etc., etc, tons of fuel and not to mention the aircraft itself.

Common sense is all but dead still but this seems to be a ray of hope.
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 03:31
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So now all we have to worry about is some crazed cabin crew making bombs and weapons from all the heavy gear and liquids available to them in the galleys, once they've been 'cleared' by a TSA strip search of course!

Still, one small step .......
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 04:37
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Exemption for flight attendants, similar to that for pilots, may be imminent:

TSA Partners With Flight Attendants on Security -- WASHINGTON, Nov. 19, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

About time!
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So, will this apply.......

To foreign operating crews too. VApilot mentioned that the ID would checked against a flight crew database. Is that database linked to B1/B2 & C1/D visas for inbound operating crew so that going outbound will be a formality for us too.
I have to say that, especially in the UK, the flight crew are so used to being exposed to harsh screening (scanners, pat down, bag inspection) that sometimes a trip to the States is a walk-in-the-park.
I can tell you with certainty that the rest of Europe are nowhere near as pedantic/arrogant/ignorant/anal as the UK ! However, I also understand the perceived threat against other EC members is not as high !

Anyway, good for you guys, I'm glad someone has seen sense, I just hope the sense spreads a bit further East.
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.... I am with you on the UK - Staff and additional you find a similar mood in Downunder, AU/NZ from time to time.

I spoke with some PAX in the past who avoid UK-transit flights whenever they can. Less crowded then somewhere else and a better behaivior from Staff. Maybe in a while this reflects in the statistic and the PAX-number goes down. At the end it is revenue lost.......

Fly safe and land happy

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Pat-down woman forced to show fake breast
Yes, let's all be outraged by this because no self-respecting terrorist would stoop to using a prosthetic body part loaded with explosives to bring down a plane. They are above that kind of behavior as we all know. More outrage needed here.
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Oh give us all a break. She was cabin crew, recovering from breast cancer and she was understandably concerned about exposing her body to unnecessary radiation. Hey pal, there is a job for you in the security industry, you will go far.

Can we please get to profiling as quickly as possible and stop molesting the vast majority of the law abiding populace.

What next? Anal searches?
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 13:36
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" because no self-respecting terrorist would stoop to using a prosthetic body part loaded with explosives to bring down a plane. "

I have one word about this: PROFILING!!

To use a few more words....when the h3ll is this politically correct CR@P going to stop!!
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 16:45
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Time it right in China and you get patted down by a member of the opposite sex. So far I have seen no complaints from fellow crew members, in fact .......
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I guess that sometime after hell freezes over and pigs start flying they might do the same for us in the UK.
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