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Old 12th Sep 2010, 00:21
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There was no evacuation ordered
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Old 14th Sep 2010, 18:48
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As was suggested in the first day, the case of power loss was "selfheating" of batteries caused by (or which caused) inner shortage. There is no control of batteries temp and no procedures for such malfunction.
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Congratulations to the crew on that landing, very reassuring. For those of us who have been following the UPS crash thread, notice 4 flight deck crew on this one - I wonder how much of a difference that made in this instance?
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The news is the owners want to swap out 2 engines and ferry it out of there.
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 14:53
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The news is the owners want to swap out 2 engines and ferry it out of there
Wow.... that will be an interesting takeoff !
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 15:01
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Well - they have the ready made starter extension
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Old 15th Sep 2010, 21:22
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While I don't think they would have a chance to stay on runway if they need to cut close to V1, runway lenght is more than enough for takeoff roll of empty TU154 with min fuel onboard.
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Tough airplane.
Tough crew.
Well done, to both the designers and the crew.
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Old 18th Sep 2010, 05:35
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I reckon they will need to change 1 and 3 as they probably ingested some material during the landing. Other than that, that runway is plenty long for a departure on an empty TU.

Yea, they are extremely tough birds. I recall one to crash in Dehli, one wing torn off and on it's back and still everyone got out. I concur that probably the fact that they did not evacuate but after a brief assessment of the situation decided to keep everyone on board and sort out the escape paths probably saved a lot of folks from injury. Once they knew there was no leak and no fire, why bother with an evac. They always end up with injuries, certainly if you evac into an overgrowth of this kind.

They probably will clear the path the plane made into the forest, they will need to just to get it back onto the concrete. This should give them plenty of space in case of an abort.

From what I hear from people who've been on the TU, they consider this a very fine performance by the crew. Obviously, the fact that a battery malfunction can lead to a total electrical failure is not quite a nice design feature. One guy told me that there is a work around which is implemented in many but not all Tupolevs, where in case of a battery malfunction they can be isolated so that they will not hamper the rest of the plane's electrics. If so, then I reckon the Russian CAA might consider to make that one a compulsory modification.

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Old 18th Sep 2010, 23:50
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You can analyse and hypothesise this incident to death but at the end of the day its hats off to the crew. It took balls and confidence to do what they did, knowing that the best case scenario was worth trying for and happened to be the result.
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 15:54
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Attempt (unsuccessfull) of rescue operation
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Old 19th Sep 2010, 20:40
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Did they hit any unforeseen problem or are those just preparation works being carried out (sorry my Russian is pretty lame ) ?
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 02:13
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I think they need a bigger tractor
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 12:12
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they are saying that the tractor couldn't get the plane to the RWY - not enough power.

The plane attracting lots tourists. People come over, take some pictures etc.
I wonder, how are they going to take off from such a short runway…
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I think they need a bigger tractor
There is always the danger that a bigger tractor will simply end up removing a piece of the equipment while the rest remains in the bog

They need to bring inflatable pillows to raise the a/c off the gear; then put proper sized boards underneath.
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 12:40
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They need a Joe Petronika to manage the operation.
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Old 20th Sep 2010, 18:12
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Almost there

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Old 21st Sep 2010, 19:43
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The lady is saying that the crew landed the plane "blindly". Not to diminish the pilots skills, I think calling it landing "blindly" is bit of a stretch. And I don't really buy the "water cup" story as a replacement for AI in the IMC. Bob Hover's video clearly demonstrates that you can be upside down with the water neatly showing you in a S&L flight.

Everyone likes to believe in heroes and the media gladly spins it out and feeds it to the public.
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Old 21st Sep 2010, 20:58
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© KP Syktyvkar

Serge Sotnikov, heliport director, for 12 years managed closed runaway. He with this small staff removed garbage and trees which began to grow from the gaps.
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erge Sotnikov, heliport director, for 12 years managed closed runaway. He with this small staff removed garbage and trees which began to grow from the gaps.
Why would he do such a thing ?

Anyone with gps coordinates for this airfield ?
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