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Tu 154 emergency landing at Izhma (Komi)

Old 10th Dec 2010, 20:15
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I faintly recall a video of somebody pouring coffee or tea into a mug while transitioning through upside down in a barrel roll.

For the water to stay in the glass, it doesn't have to always be 1 G through the vertical axis of the glass. Anything positive will do the job.
For all the doubters out there try it the next time you are in the simulator
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Old 10th Dec 2010, 20:42
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Cool

Hi,

The video :
YouTube - Stopped engine aerobatics
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 17:04
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Recently two new engines was installed using local truck crane






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Old 8th Mar 2011, 17:12
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Any chance of an explanation here? (Yes, I know they are removing an engine... that I don't need that explaining). Why are they doing this?
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To attach a new engine then perform takeoff
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 18:24
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Ah, so by inference then the original engine(s) were damaged in the "landing"? Wasn't aware of that, but makes sense.
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 18:25
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Brilliant

Not long until one of our CAA bods turns up to recce Then the report
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 19:44
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Is the airframe really worth all that trouble ?

I mean it will still be a relatively risky takeoff and there will be quite some further repair / control work to be carried out - I don't know what is the running price of a "decent" TU-154 but not convinced all these efforts are really cost effective.

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Old 9th Mar 2011, 08:01
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Maybe they took advice from Qantas
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 11:10
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And the plane left Izhma today!

?????? - ??-154? ??????? ? ???????? ????????
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 11:27
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And didn't need skis!

Good Siberian hard-packed snow to extend runway length?
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 14:32
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As atakacs said, difficult to imagine it was worth all the bother.

Russia, and former Russian states seem to have dozens of these things languishing at most airports, in various states of repair.

I am surprised it wasn't cheaper/easier to pick up a "new" one somewhere
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Old 24th Mar 2011, 16:19
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As atakacs said, difficult to imagine it was worth all the bother.
Maybe not to the beancounters. But considering the pilots received "Heroes of Russia"-medals from the president personally, it seems somebody thought it worthwile to celebrate the "Russian Hudson landing" this way.
 
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their parent co is the second largest diamond co in the world. This is just pocket change for them.

Veteran test pilot Ruben Esoyan behind the wheel


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Old 25th Mar 2011, 16:14
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Good Siberian hard-packed snow to extend runway length?
No need at all, it only used less than 800m as one can see on the video.(fuel only for a 100 NM journey , no pax.)
Good job, and the low pass afterwards to say thank you to the guys, style.

Good aircraft , good pilots, good for the morale of the guys on the ground that worked hard for this and the mechanics that did the repair job.

A very good management and PR move I'd say. I'll fly this airline above another one if I had the choice.
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 16:53
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I wouldn't fly on any Tu 154 even if it was the last flight home on Cristmas Eve
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Old 25th Mar 2011, 17:21
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Unfair Smudge, unfair.

As of January 2011, since 1970 there have been 110 serious incidents involving the Tu-154, and 69 hull losses in total, 39 of which involved fatalities. Six of those incidents resulted from terrorist or military action (two other war-time hull losses were non fatal) including an accidental missile shoot-down by Ukraine, several from poor runway conditions in winter (including one in which airplane struck snow plows on the runway), cargo overloading by airlines in the lapse of post-Soviet federal safety standards (several cases), and mid-air collisions due to faulty air traffic control or mis-communication. Other incidents have resulted from mechanical problems (two cases prior to 2001), running out of fuel on unscheduled extended route, pilot errors (including training flights for new crews), and cargo fires. On January 2, 2011, Russia's Federal Transport Oversight Agency advised airlines to stop using remaining examples of the Tu-154 (B variant) until the fatal fire incident in Surgut had been investigated. The Tu-154 is described as having an average (or better than expected) safety record considering its length of service and heavy use in demanding conditions. Wiki.
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Smudger, I am buying the second round in the departure lounge when we see what is parked outside

It will be a long evening away from home
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 18:35
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I anticipated some flak but.... mine's a Guinness.. Happy Christmas ha ha... still never gonna fly on one
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