Ash clouds threaten air traffic
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
From: uk
Met Office update
There's a bit of news from the Met Office. They did a test flight over the North sea and found some volcanic ash.
They are reporting three layers, with large particles down at 8000ft.
Is the fact that they sampled in this region down to the likelyhood that this will be the most probable route to maintain transatlantic traffic for the next few days?
They are reporting three layers, with large particles down at 8000ft.
Is the fact that they sampled in this region down to the likelyhood that this will be the most probable route to maintain transatlantic traffic for the next few days?
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 78
Likes: 0
From: under a small carrot outside strathbungo
Heres a few points I'm thinking about.....
a lot of fruit and veg is flown in to the UK in the cargo holds of aircraft....hence the carbon footprint of a kiwi fruit...
Since there arn't any flights at the moment, and since theres a finite stick on the UK at what point do the supermarkets start to run out of the more exotic fruit and possibly simple things like orange juice?
and....what about the resturants if this is the case.
any thoughts folk?
a lot of fruit and veg is flown in to the UK in the cargo holds of aircraft....hence the carbon footprint of a kiwi fruit...
Since there arn't any flights at the moment, and since theres a finite stick on the UK at what point do the supermarkets start to run out of the more exotic fruit and possibly simple things like orange juice?
and....what about the resturants if this is the case.
any thoughts folk?
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 310
Likes: 2
From: `
Chicken Little was right.......the sky is falling!! 
As to the future of companies going tits up, it may/probably will happen but remember that the customers are still going to be there. People will still need to fly from A to B and presumably back again. For each company the goes under, a new one will rise from (excuse the pun) the ashes and quite likely fly their old (or not so old) aircraft.
While this is a very big issue for you guys up north, at some stage the eruptions will stop and hopefully a nice bit of rain to quickly wash the air clean. The industry will recover as it has after past disasters. You just have to wait for the short term pain to pass.
As to the future of companies going tits up, it may/probably will happen but remember that the customers are still going to be there. People will still need to fly from A to B and presumably back again. For each company the goes under, a new one will rise from (excuse the pun) the ashes and quite likely fly their old (or not so old) aircraft.
While this is a very big issue for you guys up north, at some stage the eruptions will stop and hopefully a nice bit of rain to quickly wash the air clean. The industry will recover as it has after past disasters. You just have to wait for the short term pain to pass.
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: EU
I see from NOTAMS earlier today that the Isle of Man have gone one step further....it seems that when the Island is in the forecast area they are promulgating Restriction of Flying Regulations making it illegal to fly over the Island or within the territorial waters (12 miles I think) - applies to VFR as well!
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 119
Likes: 0
From: North of England
Latest London VAA chart has the plume heading towards the eastern seaboard of North America 
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation...1271508253.png
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/aviation...1271508253.png
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 650
Likes: 0
From: Europe
What news agency released this info?
Are you referring to this flight of A320?
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9727/cap1f.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3660/cap2n.jpg
This one was diverted over the Poland and returned back to Russia (I guess)...
Note the FL190.
Are you referring to this flight of A320?
http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/9727/cap1f.jpg
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3660/cap2n.jpg
This one was diverted over the Poland and returned back to Russia (I guess)...
Note the FL190.
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 319
Likes: 0
From: north
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
From: Somerset
Smell of Sulphur
Just completing a shift providing ATSOCAS in the southwest of England. Three separate pilots operating in the band 3 to 5000ft have reported a smell of sulphur. The unit has given a service to over 130 aircraft today of which at least 3 have been jets in one form or another.
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Sometimes even home...
Finnair just informed few days ago all of its staff that if no change in 14 days, no more salary...
Just looked at the latest MET office situation chart and the forecast for tomorrow morning.
It still totally blows my mind to watch the video of the actual volcano with the smoke coming out of it and compare that smoke with the poluted area.
I am no way saying that flying into the ash cloud would be smart thing to do, but almost entire Europe, half of the Russian and most part of the Central Asia?
Really reminds me of the recent Swine Flu hysteria...
New economical recession, here we come, again...
Just looked at the latest MET office situation chart and the forecast for tomorrow morning.
It still totally blows my mind to watch the video of the actual volcano with the smoke coming out of it and compare that smoke with the poluted area.
I am no way saying that flying into the ash cloud would be smart thing to do, but almost entire Europe, half of the Russian and most part of the Central Asia?
Really reminds me of the recent Swine Flu hysteria...
New economical recession, here we come, again...
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,974
Likes: 0
From: Choroni, sometimes
Didn't this happen to a British Airways 747-200 some time ago.
Don't know how realistic the movie is.
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
From: Surrey
According to David Learmont on SKY News a while ago he said it's impossible to predict when this eruption will stop, and he also said it's a very real possibility its bigger and more damaging sister volcano could erupt at any time. He said there would be no flights within the next 5 days, and the only reason he couldn't predict further ahead is that no-one can be accurate on 5 plus days forcesats.
What he did say, though, was that the worst possible secenario of the volcanoes erupting for the next 2 years is a very real possibility, and yes, we will be in terrible trouble if that's so.
What he did say, though, was that the worst possible secenario of the volcanoes erupting for the next 2 years is a very real possibility, and yes, we will be in terrible trouble if that's so.
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 239
Likes: 0
From: France
KLM just tweeted "Before dawn KLM is planning to make at least 1 test flight at a lower altitude to make sure it's safe to fly." Is there someone from Schiphol who can perhaps explain what sort of test this is?
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 211
Likes: 0
From: Forest of Caledon
I faithfully promise that this image has not been photoshopped, nor was the data filtered. This is reality, really.
I captured it with a simple screengrab within the last hour.
Just 72 hours ago I would not have believed this to be a remote possibility.
We are cursed by that thing of living in interesting times.
I captured it with a simple screengrab within the last hour.
Just 72 hours ago I would not have believed this to be a remote possibility.
We are cursed by that thing of living in interesting times.
