Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of alcohol offence CLEARED
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I was reading some information about Australia's newly introduced Drug & Alcohol legislation, the other day. One piece that grabbed my attention, was a warning that some over the counter and prescribed medications could easily cause one to exceed the 0.02% BAC allowed! 
What was that stuff we used to carry around the route with us to settle Delhi-Belly ? That had cocaine in it !! Taken off the shelves years ago.
But it sure worked.
But it sure worked.
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Anyone know what happened with this guy?
Tried google but couldn't find anything.
Lots of press coverage when he got arrested on suspicion but nothing since.
What is stupid is pilots drinking without due regard for the rules of the country they are guests in.
Anyone that gets caught in this way deserves all they get.
Anyone that gets caught in this way deserves all they get.
Tried google but couldn't find anything.
Lots of press coverage when he got arrested on suspicion but nothing since.
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The security personnel are a law unto themselves and weak or non-existent pilots unions let them get away with it.The pilot should receive a letter of apology,the security personnel responsible should be publicly named and fired,and an investigation by the CAA should be instigated.I hate rats even when they get it right.When they're wrong,they should be publicly hung,drawn and quartered.Have the crews breathalyzed in flt ops before,print the result and present it to these megalomaniacal tyrants.Previous generation pilots would never have stood for this bs.Now anyone can become a pilot.Emasculated pussies,the whole lot of them.
---- that some over the counter and prescribed medications could easily cause one to exceed the 0.02% BAC allowed! 
What it actually says is that many "over the counter" medications can cause you to fail the "drugs" part of the test, not the "0.02" blood alcohol limit. Incidentally, 0.02 is the number, because this is the lowest detectable limit.
So far, the programme has "not been without its problems", and just like security "persons", the persons administering the random test are already getting a reputation for being aggressive and heavy handed, particularly to anybody who doesn't grovel.
A hugely expensive reaction to a non-problem.
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"Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of being over alcohol limit"
I understand the Captain in question has been cleared. Any chance of adding that nugget of information to the thread title??
... (of course, it would cease to be so juicily inflammatory, eh? )
I understand the Captain in question has been cleared. Any chance of adding that nugget of information to the thread title??
... (of course, it would cease to be so juicily inflammatory, eh? )
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Presumably, or allegedly, for legal reasons.
In the service of Her Majesty, we availed ourselves of the pure oxygen available in the safety equipment section for testing oxy masks to clear any lingering cobwebs from the night before.
In the service of Her Majesty, we availed ourselves of the pure oxygen available in the safety equipment section for testing oxy masks to clear any lingering cobwebs from the night before.
This tradition applies just as nicely and successfully on the other side of the Channel, if I am to believe a good cockpiteering friend.
Perhaps oxgyen supplies should be left hanging around before crew go through security.
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Is there any talk of a defamation action by the captain, an action for false arrest or wrongful detention, or a damages action by the captain, Air Canada or any pax on the affected flight who were inconvenienced? In civilised countries all are equal before the law and it applies to everyone, including security nazis. Have the responsible security personnel been charged with interfering with air traffic, obstructing aircrew in the carrying out of their duties, wrongfully delaying an aircraft or similar charges? It's not good enough for the culprits to escape full responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
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Just to clarify, the Air Canada pilot charged was a First Officer. Just one of the many facts the media got wrong.
This flight is normally scheduled with a Captain, First officer, and Relief Pilot, but on this day there was one Captain and two First Officers. (When this crew left Canada, there was no Relief Pilot available so a First Officer was substituted instead.)
When the First Officer had to leave the aircraft, the "augment" First Officer took his place. The additional pilot was a contract requirement, and not required by Canadian Air Regs, so they operated home with only a Captain and First Officer.
There was little or no inconvenience to the passengers. I doubt they even knew that there was an incident because the pilot left the aircraft on his own.
(I was told that after the initial breath test in the flight deck, the police left the aircraft and instructed the pilot to meet them in an area outside the aircraft)
This flight is normally scheduled with a Captain, First officer, and Relief Pilot, but on this day there was one Captain and two First Officers. (When this crew left Canada, there was no Relief Pilot available so a First Officer was substituted instead.)
When the First Officer had to leave the aircraft, the "augment" First Officer took his place. The additional pilot was a contract requirement, and not required by Canadian Air Regs, so they operated home with only a Captain and First Officer.
There was little or no inconvenience to the passengers. I doubt they even knew that there was an incident because the pilot left the aircraft on his own.
(I was told that after the initial breath test in the flight deck, the police left the aircraft and instructed the pilot to meet them in an area outside the aircraft)
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Rananim, I think that is a bit harsh on security staff. If they have made a mistake, they should apologise and be dealt with using their disciplinary procedures. Thay are trained not to take any chances, so in doubt or suspicion, this would have been, in my opinion, the correct procedure in order not to joepardise safety. The pilot was cleared and he should be compensated and their name "cleaned", but if you name and shame the security guys, and have them publicly flogged in the media, this could lead to security staff being more reluctant to act when there is a real threat to safety, in order to avoid punishment if they are wrong in their judgements.
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No, LHR security staff have stiff competition here in the UK for the world's most uneducated staff.
Yesterday I was asked by LTN Security what 'LGW' meant on an ID card. At least he was pleasant with it.
Yesterday I was asked by LTN Security what 'LGW' meant on an ID card. At least he was pleasant with it.
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UK airport security people..unwashed and uneducated chavs, (managers included) who have a class problem.
Treat them like stuff on your shoe, but don't swear and don't insult the ignorami. ``````````````just smile and pass on to the work they could never do.
Treat them like stuff on your shoe, but don't swear and don't insult the ignorami. ``````````````just smile and pass on to the work they could never do.
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Security personnel are the biggest joke of the century. Checking someone for nailclippers who flies an airplane is a substitute for the word contradiction!
.... still, a poor attempt at an inflight pedicure brought down Amelia Earhart!
