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Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of alcohol offence CLEARED

Old 9th May 2009, 20:59
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Couldn’t agree more..
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Old 10th May 2009, 01:00
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I was reading some information about Australia's newly introduced Drug & Alcohol legislation, the other day. One piece that grabbed my attention, was a warning that some over the counter and prescribed medications could easily cause one to exceed the 0.02% BAC allowed!
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Old 10th May 2009, 08:57
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What was that stuff we used to carry around the route with us to settle Delhi-Belly ? That had cocaine in it !! Taken off the shelves years ago.

But it sure worked.
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Old 10th May 2009, 09:15
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Kaolin & Morphine ?
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 22:38
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What is stupid is pilots drinking without due regard for the rules of the country they are guests in.
Anyone that gets caught in this way deserves all they get.
Anyone know what happened with this guy?

Tried google but couldn't find anything.
Lots of press coverage when he got arrested on suspicion but nothing since.
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Old 17th Sep 2009, 22:43
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I hear he was cleared of all charges back on the line. No press coverage of him being cleared not suprised . What has happened to the AA B 777 captain
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 01:09
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The security personnel are a law unto themselves and weak or non-existent pilots unions let them get away with it.The pilot should receive a letter of apology,the security personnel responsible should be publicly named and fired,and an investigation by the CAA should be instigated.I hate rats even when they get it right.When they're wrong,they should be publicly hung,drawn and quartered.Have the crews breathalyzed in flt ops before,print the result and present it to these megalomaniacal tyrants.Previous generation pilots would never have stood for this bs.Now anyone can become a pilot.Emasculated pussies,the whole lot of them.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 01:46
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The pilot in question must have been cleared of all charges because he was back at work in July.
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Old 18th Sep 2009, 11:59
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 02:02
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---- that some over the counter and prescribed medications could easily cause one to exceed the 0.02% BAC allowed!
Capt Claret,

What it actually says is that many "over the counter" medications can cause you to fail the "drugs" part of the test, not the "0.02" blood alcohol limit. Incidentally, 0.02 is the number, because this is the lowest detectable limit.

So far, the programme has "not been without its problems", and just like security "persons", the persons administering the random test are already getting a reputation for being aggressive and heavy handed, particularly to anybody who doesn't grovel.

A hugely expensive reaction to a non-problem.

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Old 20th Sep 2009, 06:23
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Grrr

"Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of being over alcohol limit"
I understand the Captain in question has been cleared. Any chance of adding that nugget of information to the thread title??
... (of course, it would cease to be so juicily inflammatory, eh? )
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 12:03
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Presumably, or allegedly, for legal reasons.

In the service of Her Majesty, we availed ourselves of the pure oxygen available in the safety equipment section for testing oxy masks to clear any lingering cobwebs from the night before.

This tradition applies just as nicely and successfully on the other side of the Channel, if I am to believe a good cockpiteering friend.

Perhaps oxgyen supplies should be left hanging around before crew go through security.
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 13:21
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Is there any talk of a defamation action by the captain, an action for false arrest or wrongful detention, or a damages action by the captain, Air Canada or any pax on the affected flight who were inconvenienced? In civilised countries all are equal before the law and it applies to everyone, including security nazis. Have the responsible security personnel been charged with interfering with air traffic, obstructing aircrew in the carrying out of their duties, wrongfully delaying an aircraft or similar charges? It's not good enough for the culprits to escape full responsibility for the consequences of their actions.
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 13:38
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Just to clarify, the Air Canada pilot charged was a First Officer. Just one of the many facts the media got wrong.

This flight is normally scheduled with a Captain, First officer, and Relief Pilot, but on this day there was one Captain and two First Officers. (When this crew left Canada, there was no Relief Pilot available so a First Officer was substituted instead.)

When the First Officer had to leave the aircraft, the "augment" First Officer took his place. The additional pilot was a contract requirement, and not required by Canadian Air Regs, so they operated home with only a Captain and First Officer.

There was little or no inconvenience to the passengers. I doubt they even knew that there was an incident because the pilot left the aircraft on his own.

(I was told that after the initial breath test in the flight deck, the police left the aircraft and instructed the pilot to meet them in an area outside the aircraft)
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Old 20th Sep 2009, 23:40
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Rananim, I think that is a bit harsh on security staff. If they have made a mistake, they should apologise and be dealt with using their disciplinary procedures. Thay are trained not to take any chances, so in doubt or suspicion, this would have been, in my opinion, the correct procedure in order not to joepardise safety. The pilot was cleared and he should be compensated and their name "cleaned", but if you name and shame the security guys, and have them publicly flogged in the media, this could lead to security staff being more reluctant to act when there is a real threat to safety, in order to avoid punishment if they are wrong in their judgements.
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Old 21st Sep 2009, 06:32
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LHR Security staff are the worst. Uneducated, Unskilled...yet they live under the delusion that they are actually accomplishing something.
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Old 21st Sep 2009, 09:14
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No, LHR security staff have stiff competition here in the UK for the world's most uneducated staff.
Yesterday I was asked by LTN Security what 'LGW' meant on an ID card. At least he was pleasant with it.
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Old 21st Sep 2009, 21:50
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UK airport security people..unwashed and uneducated chavs, (managers included) who have a class problem.

Treat them like stuff on your shoe, but don't swear and don't insult the ignorami. ``````````````just smile and pass on to the work they could never do.
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Old 21st Sep 2009, 21:58
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Exclamation

Security personnel are the biggest joke of the century. Checking someone for nailclippers who flies an airplane is a substitute for the word contradiction!
Not only "flies an airplane" but flies THE airplane!

.... still, a poor attempt at an inflight pedicure brought down Amelia Earhart!
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Old 24th Sep 2009, 07:20
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Originally Posted by Vld177
Rananim, I think that is a bit harsh on security staff. If they have made a mistake, they should apologise and be dealt with using their disciplinary procedures.
Question is, just what are these disciplinary procedures? And are they adequate to ensure the power-hungry goons at the checkpoints don't get overconfident about their newfound power to question the operating crew who looks at them in a manner they don't like?

If the information is accurate that the FO has been cleared, terrific. BUT he will most likely be remembered as "That FO that got done for blowing thebag".

No matter how he was arrested, on the flight deck, or if the wallopers had the decency to say "Meet us in the Terminal", he was still removed from his flight, and charged. That is something that will probably stay with him for life now, no matter the outome of the legal process.
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