Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of alcohol offence CLEARED
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Air Canada Captain arrested on suspicion of alcohol offence CLEARED
Pilot 'marched off flight to Canada and arrested for being over drink limit' - Telegraph
This is getting stupid.
This is getting stupid.
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No, it isn't.
What is stupid is pilots drinking without due regard for the rules of the country they are guests in.
Anyone that gets caught in this way deserves all they get. There is absolutely NO excuse.
What is stupid is pilots drinking without due regard for the rules of the country they are guests in.
Anyone that gets caught in this way deserves all they get. There is absolutely NO excuse.
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Security staff allegedly smelt drink on Daniel Dufour's breath as he went through a routine check at Terminal 3 of Heathrow Airport, according to The Sun.
The staff reportedly alerted police, who then reportedly led the Canadian captain from the Air Canada Flight AC851 to Calgary in front of fellow crew and travellers.
He was allegedly taken to Heathrow police station, where he reportedly gave a blood sample and was reportedly bailed for further inquires.
A police source is reported to have told the newspaper: "He was amazed to be still over the limit in the middle of the day. He was close to tears. At this stage he appears to have thrown away his distinguished career."
A reserve captain was reportedly called in to fly the Airbus A330.
Mr Dufour's alleged arrest comes four months after US first officer Michael Harr, 62, was marched off a Jet Airways flight to Mumbai at Heathrow for failing a breath test.
A Scotland Yard spokesman told the newspaper: "A man was arrested on suspicion of performing an aviation function whilst exceeding the alcohol limit. He was bailed to June 12."
The staff reportedly alerted police, who then reportedly led the Canadian captain from the Air Canada Flight AC851 to Calgary in front of fellow crew and travellers.
He was allegedly taken to Heathrow police station, where he reportedly gave a blood sample and was reportedly bailed for further inquires.
A police source is reported to have told the newspaper: "He was amazed to be still over the limit in the middle of the day. He was close to tears. At this stage he appears to have thrown away his distinguished career."
A reserve captain was reportedly called in to fly the Airbus A330.
Mr Dufour's alleged arrest comes four months after US first officer Michael Harr, 62, was marched off a Jet Airways flight to Mumbai at Heathrow for failing a breath test.
A Scotland Yard spokesman told the newspaper: "A man was arrested on suspicion of performing an aviation function whilst exceeding the alcohol limit. He was bailed to June 12."
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An accurate device for telling you your level accurately would be helpful for knowing an individuals level before performing any function that has a limit. At the moment you have the bodies rate of removal coupled with total units consumed and the 8 hour rule, all of which are as good as useless.
The only sure way is to give up, but for everybody else ie normal everyday people who are drivers, train drivers, pilots, engineers, dispatchers etc the knowledge that you are safe to operate is vital.
It can't be that difficult to produce an approved handheld tester? Then this would not be happening.
Out of interest is a security staff member included in the legislation as their task is also an aviation safety issue?
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The only sure way is to give up, but for everybody else ie normal everyday people who are drivers, train drivers, pilots, engineers, dispatchers etc the knowledge that you are safe to operate is vital.
It can't be that difficult to produce an approved handheld tester? Then this would not be happening.
Out of interest is a security staff member included in the legislation as their task is also an aviation safety issue?
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So, 3 alleged(ly)....and 6 reported(ly)....nothing like just reporting the facts then...
In the service of Her Majesty, we availed ourselves of the pure oxygen available in the safety equipment section for testing oxy masks to clear any lingering cobwebs from the night before.
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Originally Posted by eliptic
How many pilots are not recognized by the security ? it is scary indeed
Far too many people seem to equate 'being over the limit' with being wasted and a danger to world peace on par with Lex Luthor.
I bet the same people would demand their own shadow wear a hi-viz jacket, so it couldn't sneak up and scare them, if they could.
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Scary my arse. When was the last time an airliner crashed in Western Europe/USA because the pilots were over the alcohol limit? What a load of bollocks.
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The answer is very few............. just look at the FAA drug test numbers vs the number of people who get convicted.
This is by and large a "clean" industry, with the agressive and vinditive culture of the security operatives in the UK it is unlikely that anyone who smells of booze will not get reported.
What I would like to know is the number of pilots who have been "reported" by security who tested negative?
This is by and large a "clean" industry, with the agressive and vinditive culture of the security operatives in the UK it is unlikely that anyone who smells of booze will not get reported.
What I would like to know is the number of pilots who have been "reported" by security who tested negative?
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UK security aggresive and vindtictive?.. surely not, further they have done a fantastic job in apprehending this alcohol crazed lush who could have had up the equivalent a third of a pint of "normal" beer sloshing around his system doesnt bear thinking about does it?
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Am I going mad, people thinking "it's getting stupid" that somebody is about to fly a commercial flight intoxicated/over the legal limit??
If he is blowing over the limit around mid day, he MUST of had a skin full the night before or finished drinking in the very early hours.
This is NOT "getting stupid". The only stupid thing about this is the Captains actions!!!!!!
The rules and limits are there for a bloody good reason!!
Personally I won't touch a drop poison 12 hours before reporting for duty. Thats a good rule of thumb.
Happy sober flying
If he is blowing over the limit around mid day, he MUST of had a skin full the night before or finished drinking in the very early hours.
This is NOT "getting stupid". The only stupid thing about this is the Captains actions!!!!!!
The rules and limits are there for a bloody good reason!!
Personally I won't touch a drop poison 12 hours before reporting for duty. Thats a good rule of thumb.
Happy sober flying
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Not as scary as ignorance and oh-this-is-so-terrible-something-must-be-done handwringing reactions which seems to be so in vogue.
Far too many people seem to equate 'being over the limit' with being wasted and a danger to world peace on par with Lex Luthor.
I bet the same people would demand their own shadow wear a hi-viz jacket, so it couldn't sneak up and scare them, if they could
Far too many people seem to equate 'being over the limit' with being wasted and a danger to world peace on par with Lex Luthor.
I bet the same people would demand their own shadow wear a hi-viz jacket, so it couldn't sneak up and scare them, if they could
Scary my arse. When was the last time an airliner crashed in Western Europe/USA because the pilots were over the alcohol limit? What a load of bollocks.
In my opinion take control of a A/C with 300Pax (or whatever#) not 100 % alert are not professional and ii am shore the most pilots agree to that
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In my opinion take control of a A/C with 300Pax (or whatever#) not 100 % alert are not professional and ii am shore the most pilots agree to that
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Originally Posted by eliptic
I hope you are not a pilot!!
You strike me as one of an increasing number of people who come here for no other apparent reason, but to pass judgement and point fingers at an industry they have no connection with.
Jantelagen is alive and well, as is handwringing.
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You strike me as one of an increasing number of people
My god!