Pilots and stewardesses caught in parking blitz
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As I mentioned to DIVER in Aircrew Notices get your ops to call the airport duty manager
IF your car is legally parked,I.E. permit in date etc.Get the ADM and the airport Police out to your car and threaten the MAplc with legal action and a letter to the Manchester Evening News. Make sure also, that your Station/Base Manager is aware so they can make a fuss with the airport management. I will be speaking to the Chairman of the AOC tomorrow and will ask him to bring this subject up yet again with the MAplc.
At the moment I feel that the MAplc are walking all over those of us that use the staff car parks.If we voice our opinions then maybe something may be done about it.
How about a staff car parks users commitee ?
IF your car is legally parked,I.E. permit in date etc.Get the ADM and the airport Police out to your car and threaten the MAplc with legal action and a letter to the Manchester Evening News. Make sure also, that your Station/Base Manager is aware so they can make a fuss with the airport management. I will be speaking to the Chairman of the AOC tomorrow and will ask him to bring this subject up yet again with the MAplc.
At the moment I feel that the MAplc are walking all over those of us that use the staff car parks.If we voice our opinions then maybe something may be done about it.
How about a staff car parks users commitee ?
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nothanxp: You misunderstand me. This is not a simple civil matter where you pay for the damage - it is a criminal offence deliberately to damage somebody's property, and it is dealt with in a criminal court.
So you are looking at a fine, and costs, and compensation, and a criminal record. These cases are quite common.
And IFF: I am not a lawyer, but I have a feeling that the clampers are entitled to insist on legal tender - and that ain't a cheque. If they take cheques or plastic that is up to them. On the other hand most of them are so thick, selected for looking menacing, that it might be worth a try.
By the way, when did you last buy a security padlock? The last one I bought was sixty quid!
[ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: JPJ ]
So you are looking at a fine, and costs, and compensation, and a criminal record. These cases are quite common.
And IFF: I am not a lawyer, but I have a feeling that the clampers are entitled to insist on legal tender - and that ain't a cheque. If they take cheques or plastic that is up to them. On the other hand most of them are so thick, selected for looking menacing, that it might be worth a try.
By the way, when did you last buy a security padlock? The last one I bought was sixty quid!
[ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: JPJ ]
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Doctor Cruces,
I take it you are a police officer, if so how do you know 411A was ever based in the UK let alone Manchester? After all, this in an anonymous forum, do you claim to know him personally?
You do seem to have an enormous chip on your shoulder concerning Air Crew and you have completely steered off the issue of the wheel clamping which occurs inside the staff car parks. I agree if a pilot is caught parking on double yellow lines then he can reasonably expect a ticket but the guy who started this topic complained about his wife's car being clamped inside his staff car park not for being on double yellow lines!
The very fact you singled out a pilot in uniform to vent your anger on, following a completely unrelated incident, clearly illustrates your own BAD ATTITUDE TOWARDS AIRCREW.
Do I detect a aire of jealousy perhaps?
I take it you are a police officer, if so how do you know 411A was ever based in the UK let alone Manchester? After all, this in an anonymous forum, do you claim to know him personally?
You do seem to have an enormous chip on your shoulder concerning Air Crew and you have completely steered off the issue of the wheel clamping which occurs inside the staff car parks. I agree if a pilot is caught parking on double yellow lines then he can reasonably expect a ticket but the guy who started this topic complained about his wife's car being clamped inside his staff car park not for being on double yellow lines!
The very fact you singled out a pilot in uniform to vent your anger on, following a completely unrelated incident, clearly illustrates your own BAD ATTITUDE TOWARDS AIRCREW.
Do I detect a aire of jealousy perhaps?
I thought I would try the `horses mouth` on this problem. I rang the Staff Car Park Office at Hale Bop I think it is, to try and get some clarification.
I was informed fairly politely that, provided you adhere to the following, you should be ok. Only time will tell though.
1. Your vehicle must display a proper car park sticker (not scrap of paper in window if you have pinched wife's mini to day)
2. This sticker must be current (in date) and refer to the particular car park you are in. ie No good parking in car park 2 if you have a sticker for car park 3 etc.
3. The vehicle must be correctly parked. ie Within the marked bays only and nowhere else. I got the impression from my chat, this was the thing they were more on the look out for.
So if we all keep to the above, I gather we should be free of the Clamping Company, but I have my doubts.
I cetainly agree with Silkman's message of 4 Oct 12.33.
On a separate note, are the Clamping Company going to provide security for the vehicles themselves and for the Staff who actually use the car parks.
I was informed fairly politely that, provided you adhere to the following, you should be ok. Only time will tell though.
1. Your vehicle must display a proper car park sticker (not scrap of paper in window if you have pinched wife's mini to day)
2. This sticker must be current (in date) and refer to the particular car park you are in. ie No good parking in car park 2 if you have a sticker for car park 3 etc.
3. The vehicle must be correctly parked. ie Within the marked bays only and nowhere else. I got the impression from my chat, this was the thing they were more on the look out for.
So if we all keep to the above, I gather we should be free of the Clamping Company, but I have my doubts.
I cetainly agree with Silkman's message of 4 Oct 12.33.
On a separate note, are the Clamping Company going to provide security for the vehicles themselves and for the Staff who actually use the car parks.
sapco2,
No, I do not have a bad attitude towards aircrew, just plebs in general who thimk rules don't apply to them. I was answering specific points brought up in other posts within this subject. Nor am I a policeman, just someone concerned with actually being blown to bits whilst going about their lawful occasions. Just because I have seen a pilot get out of the abandoned vehicle and go into Olympic House does not mean that the next concerned person who passes the same car has the same degree of knowledge that I do. Anyway, whats the best disguise for a terrorist at an airport? A member of staff or perehaps aircrew? How better to leave a little prezzy for us than to say I work for xxx and I'm just going in there for a mopment, then nip straight through and into a waiting car at the other side and bingo.
Why also must all aircrew think those of us who are not must be either incapable or jealous. I have never been jealous of any aircrew having chosen my career path many moons ago and been happy with it and the financial reward it reaps. Plus I get to work with mostly great people, some of whom have become lifelong friends. Funnily enough, a lot of them are aircrew.
And yes, I do know 411A personally and I can say he is one of the folks I would be proud to call friend, and the fact that he recommends that even PILOTS who park on double yellow lines get booked does not mean he is acting like a pr**k, just that he believes like so many others (including pilots) that pilots do not have double yellow line parking rights.
To answer HugMonster, no I don't see the point of clamping a car left in, say, Tower Road at MAN. That only helps the potential terrorist by making it harder to move. I would however favour the it being checked out by those in the know and if proved to be just a prat who thinks he can park there anyway, a hefty ticket being stuck on it and then have it towed away.
As I said before, the vast amount of aircrew do not think their position gives them special rights over double yellows. Indeed it is not just aircrew who are guilty of this around airports. However, seeing as 411A was talking about pilots parking on yellows and being called names for common sense, I figured to keep on the subject.
Doc C.
[ 04 October 2001: Message edited by: Doctor Cruces ]
No, I do not have a bad attitude towards aircrew, just plebs in general who thimk rules don't apply to them. I was answering specific points brought up in other posts within this subject. Nor am I a policeman, just someone concerned with actually being blown to bits whilst going about their lawful occasions. Just because I have seen a pilot get out of the abandoned vehicle and go into Olympic House does not mean that the next concerned person who passes the same car has the same degree of knowledge that I do. Anyway, whats the best disguise for a terrorist at an airport? A member of staff or perehaps aircrew? How better to leave a little prezzy for us than to say I work for xxx and I'm just going in there for a mopment, then nip straight through and into a waiting car at the other side and bingo.
Why also must all aircrew think those of us who are not must be either incapable or jealous. I have never been jealous of any aircrew having chosen my career path many moons ago and been happy with it and the financial reward it reaps. Plus I get to work with mostly great people, some of whom have become lifelong friends. Funnily enough, a lot of them are aircrew.
And yes, I do know 411A personally and I can say he is one of the folks I would be proud to call friend, and the fact that he recommends that even PILOTS who park on double yellow lines get booked does not mean he is acting like a pr**k, just that he believes like so many others (including pilots) that pilots do not have double yellow line parking rights.
To answer HugMonster, no I don't see the point of clamping a car left in, say, Tower Road at MAN. That only helps the potential terrorist by making it harder to move. I would however favour the it being checked out by those in the know and if proved to be just a prat who thinks he can park there anyway, a hefty ticket being stuck on it and then have it towed away.
As I said before, the vast amount of aircrew do not think their position gives them special rights over double yellows. Indeed it is not just aircrew who are guilty of this around airports. However, seeing as 411A was talking about pilots parking on yellows and being called names for common sense, I figured to keep on the subject.
Doc C.
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Not wishing to stir up "too" much trouble.
Walking down the Skylink at 6.38 am. the "staff" car park at the railway station had one "operational" barrier, and the rest permanently open. As I left work at 2.10 pm the same applied.
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
Walking down the Skylink at 6.38 am. the "staff" car park at the railway station had one "operational" barrier, and the rest permanently open. As I left work at 2.10 pm the same applied.
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy
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Yes MAPLC are at it again, We did the Staff car parks earlier on this year. On with phase 2 of the operation. Lets clamp em. SHOULD BE A FEW QUID TO BE EARNED THERE. What shall we do next.....Lets tell em its got nowt to do with us, Its those cowboys from Sheffield. There to blame.But Geoff we could still do with getting our hands on a few more Quid..Got it. lets hold back the bonus they were all due, Better still lets tell em they can't have it.SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO PAY FOR THIS MESS.
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So what's the diffrence between a passenger geting a ticket and a flight crew member getting a ticket?
Follow the rules... period. Because you are a Pilot doesn;t give you any right to flaunt the rules....although many pilots on this forum think otherwise. What made you so special or do you just feel entitled??
If you feel you are above the rules, be sure to let me know and I will be happy to explain why you are not as special as you think you are....and by now you should know!
Whatshouldiuse
So what's the diffrence between a passenger geting a ticket and a flight crew member getting a ticket?
Follow the rules... period. Because you are a Pilot doesn;t give you any right to flaunt the rules....although many pilots on this forum think otherwise. What made you so special or do you just feel entitled??
If you feel you are above the rules, be sure to let me know and I will be happy to explain why you are not as special as you think you are....and by now you should know!
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I have to say that I am totally against car clamping. For someone to put a clamp on a car must come under interference of property. Hey, it's your car, and no one else should be allowed to touch it without your permision.
They should be issuing you with parking tickets. That way, if you are parked correctly, you can still drive your car home. You just have to write a letter away explaining the situation.
They haven't got to clamping cars in Adelaide, and I hope it never comes to that.
They should be issuing you with parking tickets. That way, if you are parked correctly, you can still drive your car home. You just have to write a letter away explaining the situation.
They haven't got to clamping cars in Adelaide, and I hope it never comes to that.
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A word of caution. If you pay with a cheque and then cancel it, you have just obtained goods by deception, a criminal offence.
I loathe clamping companies too and understand why it would be very gratifying to stuff them this way, but you could end up being the loser.
A word of caution. If you pay with a cheque and then cancel it, you have just obtained goods by deception, a criminal offence.
I loathe clamping companies too and understand why it would be very gratifying to stuff them this way, but you could end up being the loser.
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GOOD NEWS FOR AIRCREW PARKING !!!
Why not move to Newcastle International. Loads of parking, (created by knocking hangars down).
Plenty of opportunity for new entrepreneurial airline to make camp, and take on vacated profitable Gill routes.
What goes down can only go up (maybe)
Why not move to Newcastle International. Loads of parking, (created by knocking hangars down).
Plenty of opportunity for new entrepreneurial airline to make camp, and take on vacated profitable Gill routes.
What goes down can only go up (maybe)
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Once you've levered the offending clamp off the wheel and fitted your spare, why not 'bite the bullet' and accept it might cost a little bit but there is stil fun to be had...
...don't throw the clamp away or even take it with you (risking theft charges) instead bolt it onto a lampost and let them try and get it off, if they damage your lock, have them charged with criminal damage!
FIGHT BACK AND LET MAPLC REALIZE WHAT AN INCONSIDERATE BUNCH OF W*NKERS THEY REALLY ARE!
...don't throw the clamp away or even take it with you (risking theft charges) instead bolt it onto a lampost and let them try and get it off, if they damage your lock, have them charged with criminal damage!
FIGHT BACK AND LET MAPLC REALIZE WHAT AN INCONSIDERATE BUNCH OF W*NKERS THEY REALLY ARE!
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My parking place was moved when my "office" moved. I did not ask for this. I only found this out yesterday when an observant colleague informed me that one of our number had been clamped.When I read the small print on the permit I realised I was parked "illegally". My point is that for the last year, when the barriers were down,I was admitted to the car park by the key card that I have held for years. Would clamping me be illegal as the airport authority had admitted me in the first place? Any one care to comment?
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When are they going to clamp the b*st*rds in Staff West at MAN who regularly park over the double yellows, this makes driving out/in hazardous and walking to/from the bus dangerous.
I hope they make a bomb of money from these thoughtless, selfish, lazy people, there ARE spaces, but they're a little further away.
I hope they make a bomb of money from these thoughtless, selfish, lazy people, there ARE spaces, but they're a little further away.
