No Cruise Booze makes me happy!
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Considering "air rage" in isolation is probably misleading. It has grown exponentially with "road rage" and other formes of rage. The public, most notably the British public, seem to be more inclined to let it hang out, when reticence was once the watchword.
A man who is subjected to the smallest inconvenience or check on one of our highways now submits to the urge to get out of his car, wave his arms around like a Frenchman, swear in an uninhibited fashion and threaten violence. Nobody will ever ask him whether he ought really to be less childish and exercise a little self-control; suffice to say he was provoked, and felt entitled to react so.
We've been heading this way for decades. Children are now taught to expect instant gratification, and to wail like a baby if they don't get it. They are taught to let their feelings show, not keep it bottled up... bad for you, apparently. Never did me any harm. Gibber).
So being specific about booze and fags might be a red herring. Undoubtedly they are contributory factors, but the solution lies elsewhere.
A man who is subjected to the smallest inconvenience or check on one of our highways now submits to the urge to get out of his car, wave his arms around like a Frenchman, swear in an uninhibited fashion and threaten violence. Nobody will ever ask him whether he ought really to be less childish and exercise a little self-control; suffice to say he was provoked, and felt entitled to react so.
We've been heading this way for decades. Children are now taught to expect instant gratification, and to wail like a baby if they don't get it. They are taught to let their feelings show, not keep it bottled up... bad for you, apparently. Never did me any harm. Gibber).
So being specific about booze and fags might be a red herring. Undoubtedly they are contributory factors, but the solution lies elsewhere.
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Soapbox Time.
As an ex smoker [8+yrs] and a [fairly] regular imbiber, I can
1. Sit there while every other beggar puffs away. NOT [particularly] pleasant but bearable
2. Sit there and not have a G 'n T. Unpleasant, but before nights......
Point. 11 years ago, I went to Oz. Wrong seat [non-smoke] 27 hours!! Plenty booze, YES pleeeeeze
Did I kick off?
No! Why?
Could it be that I am "normal"?
Define that!
As an ex smoker [8+yrs] and a [fairly] regular imbiber, I can
1. Sit there while every other beggar puffs away. NOT [particularly] pleasant but bearable
2. Sit there and not have a G 'n T. Unpleasant, but before nights......
Point. 11 years ago, I went to Oz. Wrong seat [non-smoke] 27 hours!! Plenty booze, YES pleeeeeze
Did I kick off?
No! Why?
Could it be that I am "normal"?
Define that!
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With regard to legality of sale of nicotine replacement, it is my understanding the the UK gov. is planning to allow sales of NRT in places where tobacco is now sold. This of course is a long overdue measure, last time I tried to give up , ran out of gum at 6.00pm, ended up buying a pack of cigarettes from the local garage, oh well.
How this relates to an airlines legal position I have no idea, as for instance duty free sales are allowed for 17 yr olds traveling from UK to say US, where the legal age in both countries is over that.
I believe it would depend under what conditions you wanted to dispense NRT.
1. If to passengers craving a fag, and you were handing them out for free, probably under the same considerations as giving them a painkiller for a headache.
2. If for sale, as a service to passengers, like alcohol on a charter flight, some sort of regularity approval may be required. No idea what though.
How this relates to an airlines legal position I have no idea, as for instance duty free sales are allowed for 17 yr olds traveling from UK to say US, where the legal age in both countries is over that.
I believe it would depend under what conditions you wanted to dispense NRT.
1. If to passengers craving a fag, and you were handing them out for free, probably under the same considerations as giving them a painkiller for a headache.
2. If for sale, as a service to passengers, like alcohol on a charter flight, some sort of regularity approval may be required. No idea what though.
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Royal Brunei have been 'no smoking' for the last few years, and have never provided booze either for free or on sale.
We get very few incidents of pax having a crafty fag even on 10 hours sectors Brunei - Jeddah.
If you want to bring a couple of cans of beer or a bottle of wine or spirit on board to drink en route, that's fine. The crew will (space permitting) put them in the chilly bin for you, they will provide you with a glass and a bottle opener. They will not pour it for you.
Interestingly enough, surprisingly few passengers do go to the effort to bring their own booze with them.
Perhaps this system enhances the idea of a nice glass of wine with your meal, or even a cold beer to relax after the stress involved in checking in, Passport Control etc before the flight.
Perhaps it also deters people drinking only because it is on the Cabin Crew's trolly right next to them and it is (perceived as) free.
As far as Air Rage goes, I thought current opinion was that Air Rage usually starts long before a pax boards a flight; stressful traffic jams, long check in queues, unhelpful staff, a hard day at work and so on. Booze might be the final straw that makes a potential Air Rage go off the deep end, but not usually the original reason behind the event.
Cheers
We get very few incidents of pax having a crafty fag even on 10 hours sectors Brunei - Jeddah.
If you want to bring a couple of cans of beer or a bottle of wine or spirit on board to drink en route, that's fine. The crew will (space permitting) put them in the chilly bin for you, they will provide you with a glass and a bottle opener. They will not pour it for you.
Interestingly enough, surprisingly few passengers do go to the effort to bring their own booze with them.
Perhaps this system enhances the idea of a nice glass of wine with your meal, or even a cold beer to relax after the stress involved in checking in, Passport Control etc before the flight.
Perhaps it also deters people drinking only because it is on the Cabin Crew's trolly right next to them and it is (perceived as) free.
As far as Air Rage goes, I thought current opinion was that Air Rage usually starts long before a pax boards a flight; stressful traffic jams, long check in queues, unhelpful staff, a hard day at work and so on. Booze might be the final straw that makes a potential Air Rage go off the deep end, but not usually the original reason behind the event.
Cheers
