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Old 31st Oct 2008, 12:56
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perpendicular......is that what they call the nose gear collapsing (since that's what it looks like in that pic?)
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 12:57
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That would've been some feat

I did turn left a little and the end of the runaway has a small downward slope. The beach also slopes down a few degrees.

Witnesses report the airplane landing way long, touching down like halfway on the runaway.

Duh.

So far it looks like a plain bad landing with some variable wind issues. And a too-close for confort judgement call on the go-around.

PAX speaks of high speed landing with vibrations on the wings.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:03
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It is also interesting to note the number of exits used for the supposed evacuation!
One of eight?
Steps or slides?
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:05
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The PAX left the airplane through normal steps. No evacuation, just "normal" exit.

After PAX dissembarked, it just took a while to give it a check and figure out how to push it back with the airport pusher vehicles from there and take the luggage out.

The airport re-opened a couple of hours later.

Air Europa says the airplane is just fine and they will investigate the causes of the incident.

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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:17
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Just what I was thinking, deplaning via the steps.

There must have been a serious bit of worry amongst the pax whilst waiting to get out.

Thinking about it, that was probably the greatest danger, dealing with a load of bleary eyed, "refreshed", pissed off and freaked out weedgies.

Should be some good stories round the town tonight.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:36
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video on the bbc..

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Flight skids off airport runway

Can you see damage to the plane at around 1:02 ?
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:40
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Ah Chambery , possibly the only Cat C (+) airfield where you can be cleared for the ILS 18 ( yes 4.46 degree G/S ), think you've cracked it at 2500' , F.40 , Landing Checks completed , when ' Zut Alors ' , 'Rosbif 007 , carry out circling approach to R/W 36 , call downwind ' !! so , de-select APP , level at Circling , select Flaps to 15 and do what you are told - all so some 172 can take-off immediatement - cannot possibly wait until you have landed !!
vive Le Sport !!
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:40
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It did look like some damage to me. Air Europa claims the airplane is fine, though, but maybe they just mean that it doesn't have any significant damage.

But that front landing gear doesn't look fine to me
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 13:54
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3.7 degree?
I don't know the approach,but I thought 3.5 was maximum for cat C aircraft.
Minus 5.8 degrees we use into Kathamdu VOR 02 (VNKT) in a A332. Not percent, but degrees! We reduce to minus 3,5 degrees at 4 DME to bring the speed back and stabilize.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:05
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One9er:
Can you see damage to the plane at around 1:02
No, can you?
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:15
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Getoutofmygalley.....another couple of feet and he was in serious trouble.....not so much a beach....but a serious rocky outcrop and then into the plinths that hold the approach lights......that was seriously close. I have noticed in the past and I know I'm going to be shot, but it tends to be Spanish operators that elect for straight in 21 when most others go round for 03.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:28
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Damage ?

One9iner I paused the video at 1.02 and it does look like a small area of damage .
The panel looks inverted like its been hit with something - looks distinctly like the hull was breached to me ! but then again what do i know ?

For all you experts out there - what exactly is that caved in area then ?

me thinks pax & crew had a lucky escape - glad everything is ok tho .
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:31
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But that front landing gear doesn't look fine to me
http://www.lavozdelanzarote.com/IMG/...identado_2.jpg

What looks wrong with it? I can't see anything obvious.
After PAX dissembarked, it just took a while to give it a check and figure out how to push it back with the airport pusher vehicles from there
So I doubt there was any damage to the gear then.

It's a short runway, 2400m I think.
7874' as I posted on the first page. What makes you think that is short? It is not short for that type of aircraft....if you land in the right place. At 60T on a dry runway with a flap 30 landing maximum manual braking ref distance is 2955' or 900m. If the runway was wet with a good braking action the ref distance is 4720' or 1440m. This assuming that their -800s aren't equipped with a Short Field Performance package, which would of course reduce these figures.


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For all you experts out there - what exactly is that caved in area then ?
It is called an air intake for the air conditioning. No damge in that area as far as I can see.

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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:38
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lack of knowledge

Pilot Pete Cheers Pete !

See how easy it is for us non pilots to talk bollocks ?

i've never noticed that air intake thingy before !

Thats the beauty of being on pprune - you learn something new every day .
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:43
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iwhack, agree with your remarks. When I was there, I stopped my walkaround to watch a local MD-something taxi up to 21. I observed the windsock horizontal blowing from the NE. The wind was strong. I watched that take-off with great interest! This looks as close as you can get without bending metal- any further and they would have started sliding off the end and through the fence. Lucky escape. Guess you really can't be hot 'n high on a steep approach on a downhill runway!
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 15:59
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the air intake at 1:02 does look like it sustained some damage when compared to the below image... apologies if I'm incorrect.

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Old 31st Oct 2008, 16:07
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Air Europa says the airplane is just fine and they will investigate the causes of the incident.

I'd have thought that the
Comisión de Investigación de Accidentes e Incidentes de Aviación Civil would want to investigate the accident.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 16:18
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the air intake at 1:02 does look like it sustained some damage when compared to the below image... apologies if I'm incorrect.
Apology accepted. I can see NO DAMAGE and I fly the type. Take a look at http://www.sjap.nl/B-737-NG-WALKAROUND.pdf page 4 and tell me what looks so different?

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Old 31st Oct 2008, 16:33
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I stand corrected. Thanks Pete.
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Old 31st Oct 2008, 17:11
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Looks like the RESA has perfect dimensions
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