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Qantas 744 Depressurisation

Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:17
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Big pat on the back for the operating crew.
Sounds like a text book emerg descent to me.
Having been in one when a window turned into a jigsaw puzzle, even knowing exactly what's going on & with many years in the game its quite unpleasant.
Its important not bag anyone or anything at this time until the 'real' facts are known.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:19
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From BBC News



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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:22
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Great pics on BBC, professionally handled, kudos to the crew.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:22
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I've always wondered why the standard safety announcements don't include the fact that if oxygen masks drop, then the plane may well have to be rapidly brought down to 10,000ft where there is sufficient oxygen in the air to breath. Given that we seem to get this type of situation almost on a monthly basis it may help alleviate some terror!
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:25
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Agree on your earlier comment about the luggage Vorsta. That is why maintenance may not be an issue here just yet......let's all wait and see. I take it PAX67 was either on the flight or is relative/friend (perhaps father of quoted girl?) of a passenger. If so, hope you/they are ok and will have a slightly smoother ride home.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:25
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Recent post from Airliners Dot Net !

Hey All,

Received this evening from sources serious corrosion issues have been detected on QF's VH-OJK while undergoing maintenance at AVALON. This is the first aircraft to under go cabin reconfiguration with the all NEW Premium Y/C cabin. Sources tell me the launch date has further slipped once to 5th of March operating the QF001 SYD-BKK-LHR route...
Let's keep our finger's crossed and hope -OJK recovers from her plastic surgery!


WTF is going on with Qantas and it's greedy mangement ??

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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:35
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Corrosion issues

just did a bit of research heard their were reported corrosion issues with OJK found at Avalon while fitting the premium economy seats. These are allegations as I have no evidence but i found it on another sight, I can not verify its accuracy .Could this be related??? The tear appears to be foward of the right wing between doors 2 and 3. The tear is just under the wing. I did not think there was a cargo door here,Could this be skin fatigue ???
ANy thoughts???

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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:43
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BBC coverage

Just called the BBC after the constant Radio 4 "Plunged" references got on my nerves.

They said, "well it did plunge".

I hope pointing out that that pointing out that the "plunge" was not as a direct result of the failure but was an immdiate trained for response by the crew to safeguard the passengers will get through.

I was promised it woudl be flagged.

As I am not one, I suggested they get an aviation expert to comment.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:45
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Good quote by a passenger on 5Live.

"When we got off we saw a big hole that wasn't there when we left Hong Kong".
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:46
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well memetic good call.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:47
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What is going-on with Qantas and its dodgy engineers? If this was a corrosion event and corrosion was evident whilst undergoing Y+ fit-out then I cannot see any excuse why this was not pick-ed up?

WTF are you talking about Derek ???

Managment are the ones responsible for running this once wonderful company into the ground!

These are highly trained and qualified engineers (they only do as they are told and most of it is "shipped" away to other-shores where I doubt they are as qualified)!!

It's all to do with money my friend and the way QF are treating their staff at the moment isn't very nice.

I believe in "KARMA" and unfortunately this is what seems to be happening at the moment to the "Greedy" people in charge of Qantas.

I just hope that it doesn't cost a life!!!!!!

Pay the engineers the extra money they deserve.

Hang on to your staff and make less of a profit!

I just don't understand anymore............

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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:48
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Oh Sh....t!

also below door 2R galley area, corrosion ?

When was its last major check?
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:49
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vortsa,

I am pretty sure that last week OJK still had the MEL requiring a pre-flight check of the oxy.

CWT would be very close to empty on that sector, depending on exact fuel load.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 07:50
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BBC Today program

The BBC interviewed their "man in Manila" just before 0830 on the "Today" program. I can't remember his exact words but they were along the lines of "the plane is reported to have plunged but it's more likely this was a controlled descent".
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:04
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From the picture in the Telegraph (UK, not Oz), it looks like the aircraft involved is JK.

Which aircraft was it that was damaged by a runaway loading vehicle in Melbourne recently?
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:11
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Cats five said:
The luggage is in a container and is loaded at ground level, so the air in the container is at whatever the ground level pressure is.
Cats Five,

If you had a second answer, what would it be?
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:13
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VH-OJK

I believe the aircraft was delivered around june 1991 , making it about 17 years old. Can anyone confirm this ?
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:17
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FJM - Well Spotted! That belongs in the investigation report for sure!

Here's a link to the photo showing aircrew and hole - an interesting one for the ATSB to sort out ... http://images.theage.com.au/2008/07/25/167082/620qantas-620x0.jpg

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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:21
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I have the same feelings as you guys...wow that would be horrible to be in that plane...and that guy in the first few posts saying it's nothing...it is to passengers...and even me who would know they dive...I wouldnt know why it's decompressed, I could think that we have been ripped apart i.e this case...you dont go and tell a baby to stop crying you're being ridiculus it's just a man in a mask...
anyway a few different questions:

Q1. would the pilots know about the gusts of air if they are on the 2nd deck or would they have to wait for a phonecall from the cabin crew? or would there be a warning in the cabin?

Q2. What about the pax, in manilla with no vaccinations, I had to cancel my flight and hotel, i booked in the heat of the moment and realised that i needed vaccinations a week before and was going tommorrow from singapore to malaysia so i cancelled my flight because I could get bitten.
what if them pax had to go down the steps they would get bitten and get malaria or is that me not knowing what it's like.
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Old 25th Jul 2008, 08:24
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The aircraft damages at tulla was VH-EBX witch is a 747-300. VH-OJK would of been delivered some time around 1991 like alot of other qantas 747-400s. Will be very interesting to find out what caused this.
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