self loading freight???
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From: Benelux
I love the term SLF. It's all in fun for goodness sake. As for "pax", I always regarded this as an official airline abbreviation and in no way disrespectful. I'm getting sick of all this "PC" stuff. It's time the human race got it's sense of humour back. We're going to need it!
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From: Newcastle/UK
Why not call us Units, there is a historical precident. 
Anyway its time somebody told you lot, PAX is already taken, its been in use in the telecomunication industry for years, it means, Private Automatic Exchange, get your own abrieviations.
[ 07 November 2001: Message edited by: tony draper ]
Anyway its time somebody told you lot, PAX is already taken, its been in use in the telecomunication industry for years, it means, Private Automatic Exchange, get your own abrieviations.
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From: Europe
Xen, true story from when Air Littoral was part KLM & flew on AMS regularly.
from KLM 747 in rasping Dutch accent: Tower pls ask that Air Littoral Fokker to get out of our way; we're in a hurry.
from Air Littoral Fokker in sexy french accent: Tower pls explain to KLM why the only good Fokker is a sloooooooooow Fokker.
from KLM 747 in rasping Dutch accent: Tower pls ask that Air Littoral Fokker to get out of our way; we're in a hurry.
from Air Littoral Fokker in sexy french accent: Tower pls explain to KLM why the only good Fokker is a sloooooooooow Fokker.
Freight God
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From: LS-R54A
And the term SLF must stay, otherwise all the network palnner have a serious problem. And then, there are no customers = passengers = self loading freight left to fill the planes, so we cant let that happen, as the main principle in ntwork planning is:
SLF = (X*SLF)/SC whereas X*SLF = PAX!
Puzzeled? You're definietly no network planner then!
Here's the solution:
Seat Load Factor = Number of Self Loading Freight Divided by Seat Capacity whereas Number of Self Loading freight = passengers!
And we don't want to ruin the oh so beautiful symetry of the equation, do we?
SLF = (X*SLF)/SC whereas X*SLF = PAX!
Puzzeled? You're definietly no network planner then!
Here's the solution:
Seat Load Factor = Number of Self Loading Freight Divided by Seat Capacity whereas Number of Self Loading freight = passengers!
And we don't want to ruin the oh so beautiful symetry of the equation, do we?
Uncle Pete
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From: Frodsham Cheshire
malanda,
I guy called Figment draws a lot of very amusing cartoons, popularising "Nigels" and we must not forget the "Debbies".
The terms were started years ago by the cabin crew when we had BOAC and BEA and the flight-deck stopped in different hotels, heaven forbid.
MP
I guy called Figment draws a lot of very amusing cartoons, popularising "Nigels" and we must not forget the "Debbies".
The terms were started years ago by the cabin crew when we had BOAC and BEA and the flight-deck stopped in different hotels, heaven forbid.
MP
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From: Midlands
SLF- just a bit of fun,no harm done. I don't mind being a bus/taxi driver of the automated style (see my name)
At my last company rhyming slang was used and punters became Hillman Hunters.The girls and boys with the food were called trolley dollies and they called us Merchant Bankers, don't understand that one myself but what ever!!!
Down with PC language (I hate these computer things anyway)
At my last company rhyming slang was used and punters became Hillman Hunters.The girls and boys with the food were called trolley dollies and they called us Merchant Bankers, don't understand that one myself but what ever!!!
Down with PC language (I hate these computer things anyway)
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From: Chicago
Call me SLF, pax, whatever, just give me a seat with 36" pitch, my own armrest and an on time departure. If you are concerned PC speak then my vote is to not call the cr@p on the plate on my tray table "food"!
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In the IT world we talk about "lusers" [sic].
By comparison, the "SLF" moniker for customers is positively respectful, implying that pax can actually get on to the aeroplane under their own steam. Lusers, on the other hand, can't understand why their computer isn't functioning during a power cut...
I hope the "25F" handle makes it clear whereabouts on the aircraft I'm to be found...
By comparison, the "SLF" moniker for customers is positively respectful, implying that pax can actually get on to the aeroplane under their own steam. Lusers, on the other hand, can't understand why their computer isn't functioning during a power cut...
I hope the "25F" handle makes it clear whereabouts on the aircraft I'm to be found...
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From: DFW, Tx - USA
SLF - I am, have been, will be. Always a pax but on some days I am just a tired ole fart who wants to get home - on time.
Do like "trolly dolly" though.
"Thank You" and "Please", the three best words in our language.
I have the greatest respect for all who take care me. From the lav dumper to the left seat, and all in between.
FLY SAFE . . . at the end of the day you DO want to be there.
dAAvid -
Do like "trolly dolly" though.
"Thank You" and "Please", the three best words in our language.
I have the greatest respect for all who take care me. From the lav dumper to the left seat, and all in between.
FLY SAFE . . . at the end of the day you DO want to be there.
dAAvid -
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From: Dubai,UAE
The term 'Self Loading Freight' is positively respectful compared to many industries terms for their customers/passengers/etc...
The ambulance service has some pretty horrendous ones eg: FUBAR BUNDY. F***ed Up Beyond All Recognition But Unfortunately not Dead Yet.
I've heard a chef routinely refer to his diners/customers etc... as 'Pirahnas'
A gym instructor who calls her customers/instructees her 'slaves'
Every so often, some bright spark MBA, some distance removed from actually dealing with the public comes up with a brand new name for their customers, optimistically thinking it won't get corrupted into some term of abuse. This artificial language control is gerally short lived.
The Police in a certain Antipodean Isle were encouraged to call people they dealt with 'clients'. Didn't work for some reason.
The ambulance service has some pretty horrendous ones eg: FUBAR BUNDY. F***ed Up Beyond All Recognition But Unfortunately not Dead Yet.
I've heard a chef routinely refer to his diners/customers etc... as 'Pirahnas'
A gym instructor who calls her customers/instructees her 'slaves'
Every so often, some bright spark MBA, some distance removed from actually dealing with the public comes up with a brand new name for their customers, optimistically thinking it won't get corrupted into some term of abuse. This artificial language control is gerally short lived.
The Police in a certain Antipodean Isle were encouraged to call people they dealt with 'clients'. Didn't work for some reason.
