Embraer Gear Problem Boston. more
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply anything sinister, simply that until the incident has been fully investigated and we have all the facts we don't know what happened. Thats all.
As I hinted at in my post, I may well have done the same given the same set of circumstances, and not necessarily with such a positive outcome.
As I hinted at in my post, I may well have done the same given the same set of circumstances, and not necessarily with such a positive outcome.
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The NTSB said last week it is investigating an accident that occurred at Boston Logan International on June 20 in which an American Eagle ERJ 135 struck the runway with the gear retracted before taking off again for a go-around. According to the Safety Board, the crew stated that all three landing gear indicator lights were green before the accident. However, a “landing gear lever disagree” warning appeared on the flight computer console shortly before the aircraft struck the runway. The crew landed safely after an emergency manual gear extension. An initial investigation reproduced the indication with the aircraft on jack stands, and a test by Parker Aerospace, the maker of an electronic component of the landing gear system, found a similar unit also gave the same indication in a different aircraft. Embraer has since issued a Field Service Letter for all ERJ 135, 140 and 145 operators to remind pilots to follow the checklist in the case of a landing gear disagree message.
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I've got a few thousand hours in the Jungle Jet and had a good time flying it. A tad underpowered when at Gross TOW but otherwise a neat airplane to fly. I can remember some small glitches that popped up when the airplane was initially introduced in the U.S. but nothing big....well sort of. I can still remember being cautioned about the problem with the transponder, how if you start to change the code and then don't touch the knob for more than so many seconds the transponder would switch off. That's right, no warning or a default to the last code inputted, it would just switch off. Remember the crash in Brazil of the 737 after colliding with a Legacy?
Now a possible problem with another computer, one which tells the pilots the gear is down but it really ain't. Software is a funny thing, problems sometimes don't manifest themselves for months or years and then you find a really messy problem requireing a patch or re-write. Microsoft is forever coming out with updates for every piece of software they ever released to cover the problems that were inherent when they did come out. The hidden problems with the Jungle Jet will be emerging steadily over the years to come I think. It's a shame but I think it's the truth.
The EMB Jets are cool to fly but they ain't Boeings and that's for sure. COEX bought them because they were only 12 million dollars a copy but I'm not even sure they'll last as long as the Brazilias did, they are not even that well made. But I'm glad they were able to duplicate the condition that caused the Eagle guys to go around. My hat is off to their airmanship.
Now a possible problem with another computer, one which tells the pilots the gear is down but it really ain't. Software is a funny thing, problems sometimes don't manifest themselves for months or years and then you find a really messy problem requireing a patch or re-write. Microsoft is forever coming out with updates for every piece of software they ever released to cover the problems that were inherent when they did come out. The hidden problems with the Jungle Jet will be emerging steadily over the years to come I think. It's a shame but I think it's the truth.
The EMB Jets are cool to fly but they ain't Boeings and that's for sure. COEX bought them because they were only 12 million dollars a copy but I'm not even sure they'll last as long as the Brazilias did, they are not even that well made. But I'm glad they were able to duplicate the condition that caused the Eagle guys to go around. My hat is off to their airmanship.
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The EMB Jets are cool to fly but they ain't Boeing's and that's for sure. COEX bought them because they were only 12 million dollars a copy but I'm not even sure they'll last as long as the Brazilias did, they are not even that well made. But I'm glad they were able to duplicate the condition that caused the Eagle guys to go around. My hat is off to their airmanship.
The EMB Jets are cool to fly but they ain't Boeing's and that's for sure. COEX bought them because they were only 12 million dollars a copy but I'm not even sure they'll last as long as the Brazilias did, they are not even that well made. But I'm glad they were able to duplicate the condition that caused the Eagle guys to go around. My hat is off to their airmanship.
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