JMC A330's to go??
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Montt - I agree with you about overall costs per seat favouring new (expensive) aircraft once a certain threshold of utilisation has been reached (usually around 300 hours).
However, with the cheap aircraft, you can afford to buy or lease several for the cost of one new aircraft. This means you can operate a number of flights at the same time to different destinations carrying multiples of passengers - something you can't do with a single aircraft.
In addition, the older aircraft have much lower guaranteed monthly utilisation requirements - our business plan for the L1011s called for 150 - 200!
Donkey Duke - try reading my last post again, s l o w l y this time. I'm sure you'll get it.
Eventually.
However, with the cheap aircraft, you can afford to buy or lease several for the cost of one new aircraft. This means you can operate a number of flights at the same time to different destinations carrying multiples of passengers - something you can't do with a single aircraft.
In addition, the older aircraft have much lower guaranteed monthly utilisation requirements - our business plan for the L1011s called for 150 - 200!
Donkey Duke - try reading my last post again, s l o w l y this time. I'm sure you'll get it.
Eventually.
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Denzil - nope, we came second in the bidding process. Pity really, coz we had lots of work lined up for them!
And yes you're right - Inter Check 2s due on all four (with Inter Check 4s due on all within 18 months or less). We did, however, Have A Plan!!
And yes you're right - Inter Check 2s due on all four (with Inter Check 4s due on all within 18 months or less). We did, however, Have A Plan!!
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Good to see old "Trixie" flying again, was a really good aircraft to work on - when they were working that is!! The L1011's have to be the roomiest plane I have worked on to date, this includes the 777
(The Cally Tristars had no centre hat racks, so it felt really big!)
I've just heard that JMC will be operating the A330's to Canada next year.
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" A seat only specialist has moved to fill the gap left by the collapse of Canada 3000 by contracting 100,000 seats for next summer.
The Airline Seat Company which operates the Canada Flights & Holidays brand, will run 14 flights a week to Canada from LGW, MAN, BHX and GLA.
The operator has contracted Airtours International to serve Toronto, Ottawa, Halifax and Montreal with an Airbus A330.
Jmc Airlines will serve Calgary and Vancouver. The deal is a windfall for JMC, which is due to take delivery of a second A330 in March amid uncertainty over the longhaul market."
[ 15 December 2001: Message edited by: Psr777 ]
(The Cally Tristars had no centre hat racks, so it felt really big!)
I've just heard that JMC will be operating the A330's to Canada next year.
Quote:
" A seat only specialist has moved to fill the gap left by the collapse of Canada 3000 by contracting 100,000 seats for next summer.
The Airline Seat Company which operates the Canada Flights & Holidays brand, will run 14 flights a week to Canada from LGW, MAN, BHX and GLA.
The operator has contracted Airtours International to serve Toronto, Ottawa, Halifax and Montreal with an Airbus A330.
Jmc Airlines will serve Calgary and Vancouver. The deal is a windfall for JMC, which is due to take delivery of a second A330 in March amid uncertainty over the longhaul market."
[ 15 December 2001: Message edited by: Psr777 ]
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just a simple question.
If you are so right that we should all be flying unreliable $hit heaps like yours, - because of the economics, how come the rest of the world,(who operate aircraft successfully, as opposed to dream about it like youself0 arent doing so?
My simple question requires a simple answer Guv. Not another one of your rambling non sensecial monologues about how the rest of the world doesnt know nout.
P.S. I look forward to watching you try to recruit pilots if your pipe dreams, by some fantastic miracle, come to fruition. But I suppose there is always going to be some inept cretin that would be prepared to work for such a Walter Mitty.
just a simple question.
If you are so right that we should all be flying unreliable $hit heaps like yours, - because of the economics, how come the rest of the world,(who operate aircraft successfully, as opposed to dream about it like youself0 arent doing so?
My simple question requires a simple answer Guv. Not another one of your rambling non sensecial monologues about how the rest of the world doesnt know nout.
P.S. I look forward to watching you try to recruit pilots if your pipe dreams, by some fantastic miracle, come to fruition. But I suppose there is always going to be some inept cretin that would be prepared to work for such a Walter Mitty.
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The PPRuNe curse of completely separating from the topic at hand has come in to play as usual.
With the Guvnor's inane obsession with out of date aircraft, and other members agreeing or disagreeing, a somewhat interesting topic about the fate of JMC's A330's seems to have turned into a mindless argument about L1011s.
I don't know about the rest of these post-ers, but filling two whole pages with pointless drivel is not my idea of rumours and news.
If L1011s had anything to do with JMC's longhaul plans or the delivery of the second A330 then I could understand. But the aircraft are sold, the fleet is being updated. If you would like to discuss the economics of L1011 operation, why not start a new topic in Aircrew Notices? I'm sure there would be replies.
Thank you for those few people that are talking about JMC's A330s.
But back to the topic. . .. Here's a little kick-start
When is GOJMB due for delivery? What are the plans for the current one? Are they still planning to base one each at LGW and MAN or is business too slow to operate with that strategy? What are the plans for JMC's longhaul future?
OK. I have given you all a few questions to answer to get back on subject.
I've done my good deed for the day!
None other than,
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With the Guvnor's inane obsession with out of date aircraft, and other members agreeing or disagreeing, a somewhat interesting topic about the fate of JMC's A330's seems to have turned into a mindless argument about L1011s.
I don't know about the rest of these post-ers, but filling two whole pages with pointless drivel is not my idea of rumours and news.
If L1011s had anything to do with JMC's longhaul plans or the delivery of the second A330 then I could understand. But the aircraft are sold, the fleet is being updated. If you would like to discuss the economics of L1011 operation, why not start a new topic in Aircrew Notices? I'm sure there would be replies.
Thank you for those few people that are talking about JMC's A330s.
But back to the topic. . .. Here's a little kick-start
When is GOJMB due for delivery? What are the plans for the current one? Are they still planning to base one each at LGW and MAN or is business too slow to operate with that strategy? What are the plans for JMC's longhaul future?
OK. I have given you all a few questions to answer to get back on subject.
I've done my good deed for the day!
None other than,
SFly
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Denzil - I don't know; I'm trying to find out at present. Should know early next week.
gotajob4us - a number of airlines are. And a lot more are currently wishing they were.
Sfly - if you read the first page it would appear that G-OJMB will not be arriving and the existing one seems to be about to be returned.
And given too that the crews are rather upset with the unilateral 7.5% paycut - the future of the company itself appears to be in some question.
Now, if they's just stuck with those wonderful L1011s ...
gotajob4us - a number of airlines are. And a lot more are currently wishing they were.
Sfly - if you read the first page it would appear that G-OJMB will not be arriving and the existing one seems to be about to be returned.
And given too that the crews are rather upset with the unilateral 7.5% paycut - the future of the company itself appears to be in some question.
Now, if they's just stuck with those wonderful L1011s ...
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You can talk about your shiney toys, You can talk about DOC's and you can talk about the fuel price.
But I am afraid the truth is that providing you offer an acceptable cabin service on a nice looking a/c that can operate on time you will get the work.
It comes down to seat cost to whoever charters the aircraft.
Lease the a/c in during peak times, charge top dollar and give the a/c back in low season.
Then you dont have to lose half your profit from the summer during the winter.
As the thread says at the beginning, you are going to see some nice B742's in the UK market this summer..... and they are being snapped up very fast at a good seat rate. Just watch ?
But I am afraid the truth is that providing you offer an acceptable cabin service on a nice looking a/c that can operate on time you will get the work.
It comes down to seat cost to whoever charters the aircraft.
Lease the a/c in during peak times, charge top dollar and give the a/c back in low season.
Then you dont have to lose half your profit from the summer during the winter.
As the thread says at the beginning, you are going to see some nice B742's in the UK market this summer..... and they are being snapped up very fast at a good seat rate. Just watch ?
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GUVNOR - Talking Arse Again.
G-OJMB doing haj in jan.
G-OJMC fending of demands from airbus to deliver it early.
Canada flights with above aircraft start this week, thursday be precise.
All flights now pretty full longhaul.
No I dont know what happened to MA.
GUV where do you get your info from? on a sunday morning?
I know where I get mine from, the horses mouth so to speak.
And where are these JMC tristars, I beleive they were Calys pieces of crap and gone before JMC started.
You say JMC stands for just might collapse, you could cal your airline JMF. Just Might FLY!!!
G-OJMB doing haj in jan.
G-OJMC fending of demands from airbus to deliver it early.
Canada flights with above aircraft start this week, thursday be precise.
All flights now pretty full longhaul.
No I dont know what happened to MA.
GUV where do you get your info from? on a sunday morning?
I know where I get mine from, the horses mouth so to speak.
And where are these JMC tristars, I beleive they were Calys pieces of crap and gone before JMC started.
You say JMC stands for just might collapse, you could cal your airline JMF. Just Might FLY!!!
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JMC never got involved with the TriStars . . . they were never repainted, re-registered or maintained in temporary storage, and have no real future.
To settle the register controversy (courtesy ofThe Official UK Aircraft Register), GOJMA was once a Cessna apparantly so that reg is taken. JMC had to start at OJMB and move on from there.
Should you wish to comment about TriStars, why not parooze over to the new topic about this very subject! What a novel idea!
By the way, are the 332s still basing one at Manchester and one at Gatwick as planned?
SFly
[ 16 December 2001: Message edited by: SFly ]
To settle the register controversy (courtesy ofThe Official UK Aircraft Register), GOJMA was once a Cessna apparantly so that reg is taken. JMC had to start at OJMB and move on from there.
Should you wish to comment about TriStars, why not parooze over to the new topic about this very subject! What a novel idea!
By the way, are the 332s still basing one at Manchester and one at Gatwick as planned?
SFly
[ 16 December 2001: Message edited by: SFly ]
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Our glorious non directing director has been told by "his mates" in toulouse that we can go and jump as far as cancellations of the 2nd 330 is concerned. Aparently a contract is a contract ,lest we all forget.null