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Tubby Linton
Man does have the capability of setting up routes for acft, but unlike Heathrow and Gatwick we do not have a dedicated lighting panel operator to do this job unless we are in LVPS when the 24L controller becomes available. Rest assured I would prefer to say " follow the greens" rather than give you several different taxiways
Man does have the capability of setting up routes for acft, but unlike Heathrow and Gatwick we do not have a dedicated lighting panel operator to do this job unless we are in LVPS when the 24L controller becomes available. Rest assured I would prefer to say " follow the greens" rather than give you several different taxiways
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Have to agree with the majority of the responses, i see it as an asset that we would be much worse off without.
Provides in many ways a second confirmation of the taxi clearence, and with the high traffic volumes in and out of the two airports the red stopbars can bring your attention to other traffic on the taxiway, especially at night!
Keep the greens!
Provides in many ways a second confirmation of the taxi clearence, and with the high traffic volumes in and out of the two airports the red stopbars can bring your attention to other traffic on the taxiway, especially at night!
Keep the greens!
Keep It
I operate B767 longhaul outta Heathrow and love the green system. Worked down terminal 5 (parked up) too. Keep It. Lgw good too when 75 in there but gatwick so easy to get around.........
Sorry to go off topic for just a small bit but the taxiway system at MAN is like the roads on the landside-there is barely a couple of hundred yards of straight line in the place.Also when it is wet( a not unusual occurrence at MAN) the stand designation lines are very hard to see at night.The naming system of taxiways seem to me to have no logic to them at MAN.The green system down south is excellent and I would be very sad to see it go!
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Gonzo
I am not so sure you are right here, CAP168, Licensing of Aerodromes states:-
I have spoken to my good friend Chester Draws, Lighting Operator at Heathrow, today and there is a rumor doing the rounds that BA have been asked to ask this question by NATS Management!! how true this is I can only speculate.
Having seen the system in action a few times, I firmley believe that had it been in use at Milan and Taipae then a lot of souls would have been saved, what price do BA, BAA & NATS put on peoples lives?
Saftey should never be comprimised and I believe that this system and the great job the Lighting Operators do is a major factor in the safe operation of Heathrow!
Eileen
It's BAA's airport at the end of the day, and if they decide to get rid of the AGLCS then they will get rid of the AGLCS.
At aerodromes where operations take place in RVR less than 400m or where ground movement requirements are complex, a taxiway guidence and control system should be installed, except where aircraft movements are limited
Having seen the system in action a few times, I firmley believe that had it been in use at Milan and Taipae then a lot of souls would have been saved, what price do BA, BAA & NATS put on peoples lives?
Saftey should never be comprimised and I believe that this system and the great job the Lighting Operators do is a major factor in the safe operation of Heathrow!
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Used the 'greens' tonight at LGW... & it never ceases to amaze me... it's a brilliant system!!! 
Ps. Would somebody please tell the French about it?... gawd knows they could do with it at CDG !
Ps. Would somebody please tell the French about it?... gawd knows they could do with it at CDG !
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It has come to light that BRITISH AIRWAYS want to change this system, one that a lot of pilots like as it is simple and keeps RT to a MINIMUM(it can be difficult to get a word in edgeways sometimes). Visiting pilots from other countries like it and describe it as "SUPER " OR "NEAT". BRITISH AIRWAYS asked for a meeting with the BAA/HAL to discuss a fixed system of greens.
Insert...ethnic tails..bespoke aircraft options..etc etc etc
I'm flabbergasted that anyone could actually see benefit in changing this truely innovative and thoroughly superb system.
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Eileen,
Ok, perhaps I should have said 'modified' instead of 'got rid of', but the fact remains that there is wriggle room in CAP168. However, I'm sure noone who uses the system operationally (ATC, L/Op, Crews) would advocate such a move.
Ok, perhaps I should have said 'modified' instead of 'got rid of', but the fact remains that there is wriggle room in CAP168. However, I'm sure noone who uses the system operationally (ATC, L/Op, Crews) would advocate such a move.
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To echo the comments of the vast majority here...
Its an excellent system that enhances saftey, please don't let it be removed.
My first time into LHR a few years back was a night landing and the "follow the greens" just simplified our job and allowed us to keep a safe lookout.
Its an excellent system that enhances saftey, please don't let it be removed.
My first time into LHR a few years back was a night landing and the "follow the greens" just simplified our job and allowed us to keep a safe lookout.