Bad week for Ryanair!!
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Bad week for Ryanair!!
A week is a long time in aviation as well as politics it seems. The week started well enough with the Blair publicity coup but deteriorated rapidly. Firstly the engine shutdown en route to STD then the double tyre blow out at MAN on wednesday and now an incident en route to Prestwick this morning requiring a return to DUB with suspected hydraulic failure. Aircraft disabled on RWY had to be towed away.MoL interviewed on radio " when you are operating 320 flights a day, one or two incidents have to be expected all the time " Is this the norm in the industry?
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From: Dublin, Ireland
from www.rte.ie/news...
A Ryanair flight to Prestwick was forced to return to Dublin Airport this morning when fluid began to leak from the aircraft. There were 123 passengers on board.
The company has told the passengers there may not be an alternative flight until this afternoon. Ryanair Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said that the pilot returned the plane to Dublin as a safety precaution measure.
A Ryanair flight to Prestwick was forced to return to Dublin Airport this morning when fluid began to leak from the aircraft. There were 123 passengers on board.
The company has told the passengers there may not be an alternative flight until this afternoon. Ryanair Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said that the pilot returned the plane to Dublin as a safety precaution measure.
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Looks like this problem is still rumbling on, the afternoon Dublin flight has been delayed until 1655 from its scheduled 1345.
according to the PIK arrivals info .. www.gpia.co.uk
according to the PIK arrivals info .. www.gpia.co.uk
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How many other 'normal' incidents didnt get reported?
How many landed on Fumes?
Remember Ryanair Capts have to explain why they land at STN with more than 3600kg fuel in -800.
Did ya all know that there are 15 nationalities on FRs flight deck. English communication being second in importance to profit.
"YER GIT WHA YE PEE FORE!!!!!!!"
How many landed on Fumes?
Remember Ryanair Capts have to explain why they land at STN with more than 3600kg fuel in -800.
Did ya all know that there are 15 nationalities on FRs flight deck. English communication being second in importance to profit.
"YER GIT WHA YE PEE FORE!!!!!!!"
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Hey SKYTRUCK did you know that we are 27 nationalities controlling our bit of European airspace? Guess what, we're just as safe, if not actually safer, than major units with one nationality. You talk rot my friend!
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From: 'An Airfield Somewhere in England'
Avman
What are you talking about man? You are not seriously suggesting to me or anyone else that listens to ATC in the UK that the standard of RT from Ryanair is the same as that from UK controllers. If you are then you need to get out more. The nearest I have ever heard to a 'foreign' controller in the UK is a Scotsman! That is more than can be said for Ryanair. Some of their guys can barely speak English. That is not some xenophobic rhetoric but straight fact - and everyone knows it (except you it would appear).
What are you talking about man? You are not seriously suggesting to me or anyone else that listens to ATC in the UK that the standard of RT from Ryanair is the same as that from UK controllers. If you are then you need to get out more. The nearest I have ever heard to a 'foreign' controller in the UK is a Scotsman! That is more than can be said for Ryanair. Some of their guys can barely speak English. That is not some xenophobic rhetoric but straight fact - and everyone knows it (except you it would appear).
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Avman - Very good point.
Norman Stanley Fletcher - Subtle mistake, re-read the posting!
I am not aware of any incidents in Ryanair caused by language problems. Tell me if I am wrong. Anyway, what's it got to do with this topic?
Norman Stanley Fletcher - Subtle mistake, re-read the posting!
I am not aware of any incidents in Ryanair caused by language problems. Tell me if I am wrong. Anyway, what's it got to do with this topic?
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I'm in DUB at the moment -- came over yesterday on the 11:30 FR209 from STN, a -200. I was sitting behind the right-hand engine, and it was leaking what looked very much like oil from various seams in the rear cowling. I noticed this around half an hour into the flight, told one of the stews (as discreetly as possible), and was told by her after we landed that the pilot said it was just excess fuel (!) and nothing to be worried about.
Which, frankly, I don't believe - I haven't got huge experience of aviation fuel, but I don't think it's brown and viscous, and I don't believe it normally bubbles and seeps out of the back of the engines. I waited for a bit in my seat after landing; a young chap wandered over to the engine and looked at it for all of five seconds before lolloping off, but I've no idea whether that was connected.
I'm going back tomorrow (FR228 at 16:25), but I'm feeling somewhat more apprehensive than normal...
R
Which, frankly, I don't believe - I haven't got huge experience of aviation fuel, but I don't think it's brown and viscous, and I don't believe it normally bubbles and seeps out of the back of the engines. I waited for a bit in my seat after landing; a young chap wandered over to the engine and looked at it for all of five seconds before lolloping off, but I've no idea whether that was connected.
I'm going back tomorrow (FR228 at 16:25), but I'm feeling somewhat more apprehensive than normal...
R
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Are FR a serious incident awaiting to happen or is it all rubbish?
Do they uphold the highest standards in engineering or do they travel around with every MEL write off?
How long does it take to read the tech log before signing it off or do tech logs exists?
Are the IAA with their ex Aer Corp lackies scared of M O'L s outfit to do a serious audit like they do to the other aerlines?
Answers please.
Do they uphold the highest standards in engineering or do they travel around with every MEL write off?
How long does it take to read the tech log before signing it off or do tech logs exists?
Are the IAA with their ex Aer Corp lackies scared of M O'L s outfit to do a serious audit like they do to the other aerlines?
Answers please.
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there is no problem with the standard of engineering involved with the ryanair fleet.i am directly involved & believe our standard of maintenance is second to none.these jt8's do tend to breath rather heavy at times but i can tell you there are no ryanair 200's with any excessive oil consumption at this time.
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So there we have it.... Our experts have decided that Ryan is dangerous.
They also confirm that only British or maybe only English pilots know how to fly safely.
Next week these same experts will be knocking journalists for lack of knowledge and sensationalism. Still - it keeps Pprune going....
They also confirm that only British or maybe only English pilots know how to fly safely.
Next week these same experts will be knocking journalists for lack of knowledge and sensationalism. Still - it keeps Pprune going....
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Having some 'time' on ageing 737-200s, it is well known for oil to seep out from the junctions on the engine cowling, especially towards the rear. It is NORMALLY just the normal 'gunk' that accumulates inside an engine cowling. The other thing that gets pax and other 'younger' observers excited is the (common) stream of 'smoke' from under the engine from the oil breather.
I will always remember (when I was a keen young thing) popping up to the flight deck after landing to tell the elderly captain that there was oil seeping out of the rivets on the No2 engine on his DC3, to be met by the gruff response " at least that means there is ***** oil in the ****** thing"
I will always remember (when I was a keen young thing) popping up to the flight deck after landing to tell the elderly captain that there was oil seeping out of the rivets on the No2 engine on his DC3, to be met by the gruff response " at least that means there is ***** oil in the ****** thing"
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BOAC--
I sat in 20F again on the flight back this afternoon, and although it looked like a slightly newer 200 (trim inside a bit more modern) there was again a steady burble of oil from the seams at the back of the engine. (Oh, and smoke from underneath, as advertised.)
Now I know it's normal, I suppose I should start to worry if it's not there... still not impressed with the 'excess fuel' brush-off. I'm English, dammit. I'm *used* to ancient machinery leaking oil.
R
I sat in 20F again on the flight back this afternoon, and although it looked like a slightly newer 200 (trim inside a bit more modern) there was again a steady burble of oil from the seams at the back of the engine. (Oh, and smoke from underneath, as advertised.)
Now I know it's normal, I suppose I should start to worry if it's not there... still not impressed with the 'excess fuel' brush-off. I'm English, dammit. I'm *used* to ancient machinery leaking oil.
R
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SLF - ?newer? - never be fooled by appearances! If you are English you will know about 'T-Cut' on your s/h 'wheels'!
Re: the oil - I once debated telling the pax to worry if they COULDN'T see the oil leaking out, but decided my subsequent interview with management would be career limiting!
If THEY think it is excess fuel.............
ABANDON SHIP!!!
Re: the oil - I once debated telling the pax to worry if they COULDN'T see the oil leaking out, but decided my subsequent interview with management would be career limiting!
If THEY think it is excess fuel.............
ABANDON SHIP!!!
