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Another Aircraft off the Runway at BRS?

Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:35
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ryanair's response

head in the sand?


"Rayanir told the BBC it had experienced no problems at the airport and was unaware of any concerns." from the bbc's article


well done easyjet
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ermm. This is getting a bit cringeworthy.

WHAT are BIA going to do about this, as I asked earlier?
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:47
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Slippery when wet

What's the problem today? As we left I could see the plant producing the material for the resurfacing was going full pelt, with steam coming from it's chimney, so presumably, resurfacing re-commenced last night.
Yesterday there was no problem - for the first time in weeks the runway was dry.
The problem today is that the runway is wet, and so the resurfaced section is slippery again.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:53
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Well done easy jet for being procative, obviously the owners of BIA didn't read the threads here on Pprune about how slipperey their own runway is when wet!!
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WHAT are BIA going to do about this, as I asked earlier?
Absolutely nothing that they're not told to do by the regulatory body, and as our once powerful CAA has had most of its' powers subsumed to Cologne or Dusseldorf (or wherever the hell the EASA office is this week), its' not likely to tell them to do anything IMHO, that would be 'interfering with a commercial operation' wouldn't it?

Only action like EZY have taken today is likely to make them sit up and take notice...hit 'em in the wallet is the only thing they'll recognise nowadays.

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Old 5th Jan 2007, 10:31
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Very well done to Easy for having the guts to put the safety of their passengers first.

Shame on you BA and others who have pussyfooted around and kept their heads down despite some of us filing MORs weeks ago alerting to the inevitability of accidents on this apalling runway.

One can only guess at the pandemonium in Mr Skipp's office.

The action by Easy in declaring that the Emperor is not wearing any clothes sould now be followed by others and the whole ridiculous farce that is Bristol International should be exposed for the nonsense that it is. It has already exceeded its safe operating capacity given its size nature and location.
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Agree with what BEagle has said a few posts ago.

Easyjet has made a clear and robust decision based entirely on the safety of its passengers and crews, they should be congratulated and supported by us all.

I wish that the other operators would follow Easyjets' lead and show BIA that the current situation is both unsafe and therefore unacceptable.

No aircraft operations at an airport, means no money for the airport operator. The runway would be fixed PDQ if this was the case.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 10:40
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Must say

Hats off to Easy. I've also seen them suspend ops due extreme weather in the past.

Not saying it's NEVER happened where I work, but it's sure never happened to me!

Must be a strong safety culture that puts safety befor profit in such an assertive manner.

Now, for a laugh, compare that attitude to Bristol 'international' Airport's!
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 10:58
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For any stranded Easy PAx, aircraft available for charter on the soutside!!!
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 11:20
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link to article: Bristol int management declare runway safe

Here's the link draw your own conclusions.

http://www.thisisguernsey.com/code/s...ticleID=001599
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 11:27
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Hmmm....I fear this is revolving entirely around politics than neccessarily safety! Someone has got to take the wrap for the 'skids' last week, what better way to pass it to the airport!!!! And rightly so! BIA staff were so proud to boast their opening hours during the fog, but in the past week have buried their heads!! The pressure has been put entirely onto the 4 stripers to decide whether to take the 'risk' or not!! A bit of operational backup would not have gone a miss!!
The airline I work for has received no official 'update' on runway speculation from BIA in the past week, poor show on the safety side!!!

Anyway, a happy and prosperous new year to all.....
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 11:48
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I've been reading this thread as a passenger and would like to add my congratulations to Easyjet for putting safety first in this instance. Their action does beg the question why other carriers are continuing operations, particularly in light of the evidence reported in this thread.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 12:02
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From the BIA arr's/dep's it looks like there are some BACON cancellations also
(I can see MUC, DUS and CDG so far this morning)
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 12:05
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Yep - I've just canx 12 sectors so far with the rest on a 'rewarn' !!!
DUS/FRA/GLA/MUC/CDG x 2

Asked pax svcs to try and disperse pax through BHX....... ;-(
 
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You may want to take a look here as well

http://www.ukar.co.uk/cgi-bin/ukarbo...ST;f=1;t=25772

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Old 5th Jan 2007, 13:58
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BACON Cancels all flights

BA website is now stating that all flights to/from Bristol are now cancelled for the next few days

http://www.britishairways.com/travel...s/public/en_gb
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 14:00
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Hi Flying Farmer,
you asked:
How would someone cancel the booking? having spoken to your helpline it will cost extra to make changes to any bookings already made, not ideal.
Calls at 10 and 65 pence a minute, if you want to speak to someone
Press release from easyjet at 13:30 approx
easyJet announces that it has cancelled all flights to and from Bristol International Airport this morning following concerns over the reliability of the newly resurfaced runway in wet weather conditions.
The safety of its passengers, crew and aircraft is easyJet’s first priority and this decision has been taken following extensive discussions with Bristol International Airport and the UK Civil Aviation Authority.
Customers are entitled to a refund of the fare paid or a free transfer on to another easyJet flight within the next month.
To claim a refund customers should call easyJet customer services on 08712 442366 to make a transfer please visit www.easyjet.com and log on to ‘manage bookings.’
Customers are asked to refer to www.easyjet.com for information, a further update will be provided before midday today.
I think you pay 10p per minute on an 0871 number, not ideal I agree, but looks like there should not be any other charges.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 14:12
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Just watched that idiot of an airport manager on the local news defending the state of the runway. According to him the CAA gave the runway the all clear yesterday. Well yesterday it was dry and the wind was straight down the runway! Maybe he should try skippering a 60t a/c on that surface.

Unlike the previous evening when the landing XL 738 reported to the tower a 'loss of control for 300metres!'

Landing at BRS has now become a lottery in the wet and thank goodness my company has put its hand up and said enough is enough! The last few days have been bloody hard work.

Lastly, why was there no work being done for the two week period over Christmas and New Year?
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 14:21
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Does the current Notam give sufficient weighting to the situation??

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From 06/12/30 15:33 To 07/03/31 23:59 C5837/06
E)due To Rwy Maint The Rwy Sfc Btn The Int Of Twys Delta And Foxtrot
Will Be Slippery When Wet. Variable Friction Co-efficient Readings
Will Be Experienced Throughtout The Rwy Length And Are Avbl On
Request. Acft Handling Difficulties May Be Experienced During
Crosswind Conditions.
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I'm wondering ...

FRA/EDDF has resurfaced (or rather replaced) its runway 7L/25R two years ago. Each night the runway was closed at 2200 local and re-oped at 0600 local, during which about 50m of the concrete runway was replaced by an asphalt one.

What were these guys doing differently?

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