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Another Aircraft off the Runway at BRS?

Old 3rd Jan 2007, 22:24
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Just as a coincedence these "incidents" have all happened in the 2 week window where the runway has not been worked on overnight, I really am not going to pretend I know anything about runway friction, braking distances and resurfacing because I dont, but could the post ponement of work added to the problem in anyway?
Also have any other uk airports recently had re-surfaceing work? Did LTN not do theirs last winter? and if so were any major problems caused there in poor wx?
Link is for Guernseys local rag re: Aurigny offroading + pic.
http://www.thisisguernsey.com/code/s...ticleID=001599

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Old 4th Jan 2007, 13:08
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KLM have imposed similar measures following the recent incidents.

Braking action is to be considered medium when the runway is wet until further notice (i.e. when they sort the runway out).

This means a crosswind limit of 15kts instead of 30.
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Old 4th Jan 2007, 15:04
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Having just watched a program on Luton airport where the were replacing the runway surface overnight in 100m sections, I have to ask why Bristol can't do the same?

It may have been clever editing, but the new runway sections appeared to be laid and grooved, in other words fully completed, at the end of every night.

Why does Bristol appear to be having such problems?
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Old 4th Jan 2007, 20:37
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Originally Posted by Strepsils
Having just watched a program on Luton airport where the were replacing the runway surface overnight in 100m sections, I have to ask why Bristol can't do the same?

It may have been clever editing, but the new runway sections appeared to be laid and grooved, in other words fully completed, at the end of every night.

Why does Bristol appear to be having such problems?
I also watched that prog. The work was being carried out by the same contractors as at BRS as per a previous posting on this forum since deleted (by the mods?) since it named names.The prog also said that the runway at LTN was around10/15 years old.However they were only replacing the wearing course at 50mm,not base course.The prog was filmed in 2006
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 07:57
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According to the BBC, Easyjet have cancelled all operations through Bristol today due to concerns about the performance of the runway in wet conditions!

see ..... http://www.bbc.co.uk/bristol/
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EZY canx all flights

GWR-fm reporting the same, and the deps board seems to confirm.
Anyone airside got anything insider on this?
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:16
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HELP

Does anyone know what is going on at Bristol Airport today?
Where are the planes being diverted to?
Is it anything to do with the runway?
Any info gratefully recieved...
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:20
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EASYJET COMMENT STATEMENT TO BBC RADIO BRISTOL

Easyjet has cancelled all flights at Bristol International due to concerns about the resurfaced runway.

"We have cancelled all flights this morning following concens of reliability of newly resurfaced runway in wet weather
customers entitled to refund. they have been in consultation with brisol airport and civil aviation authority."
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:29
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Bristol Flights

Is It Just Easyjet?
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:31
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From EZ Website

05 January 2007
All flights to and from Bristol cancelled this morning, 5 January 2007
easyJet announces that it has cancelled all flights to and from Bristol International Airport this morning following concerns over the reliability of the newly resurfaced runway in wet weather conditions.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:41
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Runway

Does anyone know if there are any flights being allowed to land?
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Originally Posted by News Bristol
Does anyone know if there are any flights being allowed to land?
Hiya guys ...

I'm working for the BBC and I'm looking for people to get in touch with us - especially pilots and crews - to talk about this story.

If you would like to chat to us then please do get in touch on 0117 9747747 or email [email protected]

If anyone happens to have any pictures from the terminal today too I'd really like to see them - again, email [email protected]

Cheers

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Old 5th Jan 2007, 08:51
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Originally Posted by News Bristol
Does anyone know if there are any flights being allowed to land?
Easyjet's decision (amazingly) only applies to Easyjet flights.
Everything cancelled this morning and this afternoon's departures showing "possible disruption".
Check it yourself on the BIA Arrivals Board
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:00
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News Bristol

If you have any details about flights or what's going on behind the scenes and want to speak to the press in confidence or otherwise call us on 07968 361059 or email [email protected].
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Originally Posted by News Bristol
If you have any details about flights or what's going on behind the scenes and want to speak to the press in confidence or otherwise call us on 07968 361059 or email [email protected].
Hello .. who's this?

[email protected] MMS:07725 100 100 Phone: 0117 9747 747 for the BBC.
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:13
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Uh oh - I hope that every UK based thread which appears in R&N won't now have "Call BBC/ITV/Sky/etc" posts appearing
I suppose it was only a matter of time.
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The Lulsgate NOTAM states:

DUE TO RWY MAINT THE RWY SFC BTN THE INT OF TWYS DELTA AND FOXTROT WILL BE SLIPPERY WHEN WET. VARIABLE FRICTION CO-EFFICIENT READINGS WILL BE EXPERIENCED THROUGHOUT THE RWY LENGTH AND ARE AVBL ON REQUEST. ACFT HANDLING DIFFICULTIES MAY BE EXPERIENCED DURING CROSSWIND CONDITIONS.

Now, that's the middle 33% of the runway length which, as it's been declared 'slippery when wet' MUST be considered to have the same braking coefficient as an icy runway. This will have a major effect on operations; the increased Landing Distance Required and/or Accelerate/Stop Distance Available plus the stated crosswind handling problems add up to an overall significant hazard if they are not fully understood.

If rain is forecast (not unknown in the South West), operating into or out of a runway declared 'slippery when wet' is not something to be considered lightly.

Runway friction coefficients allegedly obtained for such runways are notoriously unreliable. Easyjet have taken a very prudent course of action and one which others would do well to learn from.

(Yokelvision journos - feel free to quote me as you wish!)
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:25
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Originally Posted by BEagle

(Yokelvision journos - feel free to quote me as you wish!)
Thanks very much!
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Old 5th Jan 2007, 09:30
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EZY Cancels BRS flights citing runway safety issues

A huge swathe of EZY morning flights cancelled today (Friday 5th Jan) due to concerns about new runway surface:-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6233487.stm
https://www.easyjet.com/EN/News/bris...5_january.html
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Yes

Heard this on the 1000 news today. I landed twiceat BRS yesterday and it was very much 'ops normal'.

What's the problem today? As we left I could see the plant producing the material for the resurfacing was going full pelt, with steam coming from it's chimney, so presumably, resurfacing re-commenced last night.

Must be a bit of a costly embarassment for BIA.
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