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Old 30th Oct 2001, 02:54
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I have just been on a flight in Europe and was once again sitting around poeple not paying any attention to the safety video. However, the airline I was on (one of Europe's flag carriers) gives out newspapers just before the safety video was shown. Surely it would be better to get safety done first, then worry about providing a service to passengers? The result of this was everyone with heads buried in papers while the video was telling us how to put on an oxygen mask. The paper won't provide the answer during a depressurisation. Would be interested in anyone else's thoughts.
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Want to fly,
As a crew member(down the back) you make a very good point and infact I have never heard the idea before put forward,good idea. However PAX's mostly don't give a damn about our little demo let along much the flight deck tell them either. Every single flight I do (long haul)when the flight deck put on the seat belt what do the pax's do??? Jump up and go for a walk. When you ask them to please sit for the obvious reason (Turbulence)they look at you like you have just p***st on their corn flakes. They are always always always standing before the plane stops at the gate (especially the club ones).I am not sure the pilots even know this??? So to explain to them that we will no longer be handing out papers until we have done the demo and by which time taking off, so no papers until after take off !!!! Well the children would have thrown all their toys around the cabin by then.

To conclude, a great idea but god help us if they implemented it!!!!!

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Perhaps the requirement should be for the pax to explain to the cabin crew how to use the emergency equipment etc. Not practical of course but it sure would be an interesting experiment.
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And grade them with bonus frequent flyer miles if they pass
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Peter L...I agree 100% about pax rarely paying attention,about not sitting down when the seatbelt signs on etc. But I still don't think it justifies the airlines giving any further reason for distraction. I used to work for a Middle Eastern airline, and we had to haul a newspaper trolley down the aisle before and sometimes during the safety demonstration. Unfortunately people are more interested in their creature comforts, than the their own safety, and the airlines encourage this in the name of competition.
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Want to fly, very good idea!
But I guess in these "anything to haul in the SLF" times, not one that will be approved by the marketing/sales departments.

And to show that you're not alone in your sentiments of "The paper won't provide the answer during a depressurisation", the following: whenever I see too many heads burried in newspapapers during the demo, I interrupt the spiel with the oxygen mask might save your life in an emergency, your newspaper certainly will NOT. Always gets at least 50% of our dearly beloved pax to look up, which in turn inpspires the FA*s to put a bit more life into the performance.

Peter L, bit surprised at your statement that there's always standing about b4 the ac stops at the gate. Can't say that I have the same experience. Sometimes an ill advised pax decides to get up b4 time, but a few well placed words over the PA imeddiately have the desired result.
In my experience, any PA that deviates from the ohhhhhhh so carefully phrased standard texts will get the pax's attention. Add a bit of humor and some explanation as to why a certain action is desirable, and most pax will comply quite happily.

And as a last resort, there is always one's "delegated authority". When push comes to shove, I explain to a pax that The Captain has switched on the FSB sign, that The Captain of the ac requires him/her to sit down with the SB fastened and that failure to comply is an offence. Gets those b*tts in the seats real sharpish.

But humour works best. Last year december, pax on a Paris flight were already getting out of their seats while we were still on the runway.
"Ladies and Gentleman, this is your Purser. Those of you who would like to spend Xmas in a French hospital, please remain standing. Anybody else, for your own safety, please SIT DOWN"

Lotsa laughter and people SAT until I announced that we had arrived, please stand up and leave, enjoy your Xmas holls!!
A lot of handshakes, smiles and best wishes we got at the exit as well.
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>And grade them with bonus frequent flyer miles if they pass<

Now you're on to something!!. Only give them a mulitiple choice to check off and hand in to the F/A. Only if they get it right do they get their damn FF points. Or you can really turn the screws down and refuse to takeoff until the twit in seat 34A finally does get it right.

Of course for some people you might have to pare down the test to only one question, TRUE/FALSE, and then give them three tries.

[ 30 October 2001: Message edited by: lomapaseo ]
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Dear flaps forty,
Sorry to surprise you but I think you are probably always sitting at door 1 R ???? When was the last time you sat at the back of a 747 at door 5 R or L ????? As a regular guest of these 2 seats I see it every time, every time!!! I guess from that far forward you would need binoculars to see whats up back there!!!

Cheers anyway
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