Ryanair cancel flights due to pilot shortage?
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Ryanair cancel flights due to pilot shortage?
No flights out of Luton this morning, around 30 cancellations out of Stansted up until 18:00. What is going on?
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Remember FR blaming Boeing for flight cancellations due to late delivery of aircraft? Well I doubt it's that. More likely to be no flight deck crew available as they are all up on hours. It normally kicks in this time of year with FR but they have a culture of "cross the bridge when we get to it"......
FR cancelling annual leave won't help them either.......
FR cancelling annual leave won't help them either.......
There are 21 Ryanair cancelled arrivals shown on the BAA Stansted website between 10.30 and 16.00 today. There are also several on other routes shown on the Dublin airport website. If this was BA it would be in the national news by now. Yet there is nothing on the FR website at all.
You're right - Stansted Airport site seems to show around a high proportion of today's FR flights as ominously "contact your airline." Unless these were scheduled, stones and glass houses come to mind after the recent Ryanair statements about BA/BAConnect punctuality. Hopefully the press will pick up.
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It ain't rocket science so perhaps Leo H.C can help us out.
1. MOL orderrs shed loads of a/c. Well known, well inadvance.
2. X number of a/c require Y numbers of crews. Simple arithmatic that has been done by numerous airlines for years, and proven.
3. Y numbers of crews require Z number of trainers, LTC's TRI's & TRE's, & ZZ number of sims slots, both for initial training and LPC/OPC's.
Why then are the foundations not built first before putting the walls up? If you load up the roof without the cement to hold up the walls, guess what! This undercrewing problem has been a phenomenon in late winter for a few years.
Is it not said that 1 mistake is bad luck, 2 times is careless, 3 times is incompetent, 4 times is ......... fired?
And is there any truth in the rumour that the recent net increase in crews is zero or even -ve? If so, what is the longterm solution? And if it is true, then perhaps this counters the argument put out by RYR that they have the best rosters, best paid pilots and most content workforce in Europe. In other words, they have greenest grass. So where are these folks off to? Pray tell and the rest of us will follow from our own mud patch.
1. MOL orderrs shed loads of a/c. Well known, well inadvance.
2. X number of a/c require Y numbers of crews. Simple arithmatic that has been done by numerous airlines for years, and proven.
3. Y numbers of crews require Z number of trainers, LTC's TRI's & TRE's, & ZZ number of sims slots, both for initial training and LPC/OPC's.
Why then are the foundations not built first before putting the walls up? If you load up the roof without the cement to hold up the walls, guess what! This undercrewing problem has been a phenomenon in late winter for a few years.
Is it not said that 1 mistake is bad luck, 2 times is careless, 3 times is incompetent, 4 times is ......... fired?
And is there any truth in the rumour that the recent net increase in crews is zero or even -ve? If so, what is the longterm solution? And if it is true, then perhaps this counters the argument put out by RYR that they have the best rosters, best paid pilots and most content workforce in Europe. In other words, they have greenest grass. So where are these folks off to? Pray tell and the rest of us will follow from our own mud patch.
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Management have screwed up.....simple as! Typical short sightedness. If you were to see a base roster for the coming months you'd be amazed by the number of N/A days. This is a serious problem. Pilots leaving in bucket loads as well.....could be interesting!
If Ryanair have scrubbed this large number of flights from their intended schedule then, regardles of the competence of BAA at Stansted in reflecting the situation on the arrivals board, Ryanair's revenues will take a hit. And thus their stock deserves to go down.
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WHBM,
Ley me get this right; bmi change their schedules to operate their 330s from LHR instead of MAN. Commercial decision.
BA change their schedules by cancelling flights to Riyadh;commercial decision.
Ryanair change their schedule by cancelling flights; commercial decision.
Someone at BAA doesn't change the BAA site. Ryanair at fault and they deserve to have their stock go down.
What is commonly known as a non sequitur; or are you another Ryan hater?
If Ryanair have scrubbed this large number of flights from their intended schedule then, regardles of the competence of BAA at Stansted in reflecting the situation on the arrivals board, Ryanair's revenues will take a hit. And thus their stock deserves to go down.
BA change their schedules by cancelling flights to Riyadh;commercial decision.
Ryanair change their schedule by cancelling flights; commercial decision.
Someone at BAA doesn't change the BAA site. Ryanair at fault and they deserve to have their stock go down.
What is commonly known as a non sequitur; or are you another Ryan hater?
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Maybe the idea of looking after their staff and understanding the meaning, and importance of staff retention will hit home with the numpties in the offices after these cancellations continue until April!!!
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Originally Posted by bacardi walla
More likely to be no flight deck crew available as they are all up on hours. It normally kicks in this time of year......
Just as a matter of interest are there Boeings sat doing nothing around the network, or is the whole fleet operating today?
Clearly if there are planes just sitting about then the excuse of "late deliveries" is bull*hit!
Clearly if there are planes just sitting about then the excuse of "late deliveries" is bull*hit!
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Originally Posted by Rocket Ron
Just as a matter of interest are there Boeings sat doing nothing around the network, or is the whole fleet operating today?
Clearly if there are planes just sitting about then the excuse of "late deliveries" is bull*hit!
Clearly if there are planes just sitting about then the excuse of "late deliveries" is bull*hit!
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Just as a matter of interest are there Boeings sat doing nothing around the network, or is the whole fleet operating today?
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OK. First off I hope nobody at Ryan Air suffers over these set backs. The fact is that they are out of crews. No aircraft? Ya right.........
A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ALL THOSE YOUNG PILOTS WITH STARS IN THEIR EYES. DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR TYPE RATING AND IT WILL BE PAYED FOR YOU BY MOL! I SAY AGAIN REFUSE TO PAY FOR YOUR RATING AND IT WILL BE FREE.
A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ALL THOSE YOUNG PILOTS WITH STARS IN THEIR EYES. DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR TYPE RATING AND IT WILL BE PAYED FOR YOU BY MOL! I SAY AGAIN REFUSE TO PAY FOR YOUR RATING AND IT WILL BE FREE.
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It's not a non sequitur at all to say that if you have deleted 21 arrivals in a 6-hour period of your schedule in recent weeks, your revenues are going to suffer, and this will be reflected in your stock price. I suspect you may be closer to Ryanair than I am, but I am in turn probably closer to the financial world than you are.
There are many of us here who are aware of just what capacity Ryanair were expecting to be delivered from Boeing recently, and what the shortfall is, and how this in no way accounts for such a reduction of planned service.
It's not a non sequitur at all to say that if you have deleted 21 arrivals in a 6-hour period of your schedule in recent weeks, your revenues are going to suffer, and this will be reflected in your stock price. I suspect you may be closer to Ryanair than I am, but I am in turn probably closer to the financial world than you are.
There are many of us here who are aware of just what capacity Ryanair were expecting to be delivered from Boeing recently, and what the shortfall is, and how this in no way accounts for such a reduction of planned service.
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Originally Posted by CanAV8R
OK. First off I hope nobody at Ryan Air suffers over these set backs. The fact is that they are out of crews. No aircraft? Ya right.........
A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ALL THOSE YOUNG PILOTS WITH STARS IN THEIR EYES. DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR TYPE RATING AND IT WILL BE PAYED FOR YOU BY MOL! I SAY AGAIN REFUSE TO PAY FOR YOUR RATING AND IT WILL BE FREE.
A CLEAR MESSAGE TO ALL THOSE YOUNG PILOTS WITH STARS IN THEIR EYES. DO NOT PAY FOR YOUR TYPE RATING AND IT WILL BE PAYED FOR YOU BY MOL! I SAY AGAIN REFUSE TO PAY FOR YOUR RATING AND IT WILL BE FREE.
He cannot keep $$$ on the ground.... It's cheaper for him to pay your type rating....
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Am I missing something?
From what I can see Ryanair cancelled a load of flights but are unhappy that this was reflected on the BAA information boards / site. They were cancelled, so the information is correct - I don't see that it matters if they notified BAA 20 mins or 20 days in advance.
If this was a "schedule change" and there was no intention to resume these services then I would agree BAA was at fault.
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From what I can see Ryanair cancelled a load of flights but are unhappy that this was reflected on the BAA information boards / site. They were cancelled, so the information is correct - I don't see that it matters if they notified BAA 20 mins or 20 days in advance.
If this was a "schedule change" and there was no intention to resume these services then I would agree BAA was at fault.
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