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Old 24th Jan 2006, 17:11
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Whose maths?

Originally Posted by sky9
I hate to cast doubt on Ryanair's maths but 4 aircraft delayed one month is not 4 aircraft short for 4 months, it's 1 aircraft short for 4 months. Seems like the same maths that promises flight for 99p.
But how many aircraft are FR expecting to have delivered per month? You hav assumed it is one, but if it were 4, then the FR statement might be correct!

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Old 24th Jan 2006, 17:44
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So much for Ryanair's claim that they were sticking with a single type fleet. Made when easyJet ordered 'buses.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 19:05
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Having a bit of trouble understanding the difference between fleet and sub fleet are we?
 
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On the other hand, for Hungary the story released yesterday was still the same as it was for the rest of us in December -
Ryanair's new flights suffer delay over Boeing strike
Monday, 23, January 2006 03:28:00 PM (Portfolio.hu)

Ryanair, Europe's No. 1 low fares airline, will not start flights in mid-February between London and Lake Balaton in Hungary, as a workers' strike has prevented U.S. airplane giant Boeing from delivering Ryanair its 737-800 aircraft on time.

Contrary to Ryanair's early December announcement, the flights will be launched only in April, according to Portfolio.hu's information.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 19:49
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3 greens, no trouble at all. A single type fleet is one where all the pilots can fly all the aircraft. This is not the case with the 737-200 and later models. As is illustrated by this thread. Perhaps MOL had the problem. (Subs have squadrons any way.)
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 19:58
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The problem is they don't give any sources.
Lets just say that The Times newspaper was sent an email from someone at Luton informing them that despite Ryanair’s claims that all their morning departures had left on time last Tuesday the fact was that their entire Luton fleet was still on the ground into the afternoon.

The newspaper after checking the facts published the truth a few days later.
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Old 24th Jan 2006, 22:08
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Here’s a newspaper headline if any Journalist is reading this thread.
Ryanair in pilot crisis, airline cancels dozens of flights

We don't use commas in headlines and it's not a big enough story. It would be if it were BA.

A story of this nature would only be big enough if it followed another (or a series of other) higher profile stories on the airline, or other loco airlines.
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Old 25th Jan 2006, 05:55
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Harrowgate I just picked up the following headline (from Bloomberg) that I might easily have used here:
European Stocks Decline, Paced by HSBC, L'Oreal and Ryanair
- commas and all. Rather than get into a senseless debate with you about the fact that generally speaking headlines do not contain commas (since I agree with you), can I just make the point that what was really at issue was the implication that what was cited was in some way misleading? You have, in effect, endorsed the counter claims being made here about flight cancellations (clearly not your intention).

This is the typical one-sided way in which one has to deal with Ryanair pronouncements. WE, that is everybody else have to have firm facts, be honest, not manipulate the facts, not manipulate the English language, be concerned about balance, etc, etc. Meanwhile Ryanair continue to do and say just what suits their purposes.

So let's get this latest diversionary debate out of the way, once and for all. There is abundant and overwhelmning evidence that flights are being cancelled by Ryanair. They have tried to hide and obscure the scale of these cancellations and, in particular, the reasons for the cancellations. That is a FACT. It is the scale of the cancellations that is open to debate. In fact, I suspect that it is an even wider phenomena that has been hinted at here. We will not learn the truth from Ryanair, unless a very well informed journalist knows enough to really get to work on them. In practice it is not worth the time to do that level of research on a "non-story", so that is unlikely - as Ryanair knows only too well.

What has changed is the way that Ryanair got away with these things in the past. The odd dissenting voice, here or elsewhere, would have been quickly pounced on and overwhelmned by those who would challenge, deny and ridicule the "anti-Ryanair claims" and - of course - always add that such people wanted to undermine the airline that was "dedicated to providing low fares for the ordinary man", not to mention "the best rosters, pay and conditions in the universe for pilots", etc. Quite.

The continuing change in Ryanair's fortunes are marked by the first investment house to make at least an effort to say something about the cancellations and the editorial in this week's Flight. Ryanair's denials, the attempt to denigrate the investment house claims and general media management techniques are no longer sufficient to hold back an increasing tide of scepticism about their claims. It is about time.
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