Air France crash at YYZ (Merged)
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To get a better idea of where a/c is go to
www.maps.google.co.uk/maps
and search for "toronto pearson airport".
Zoom in on 24L / Highway 401 and switch to sattelite view (button in top right hand corner of map).
Also, from Toronto airports authority:
Press Release
Date of Release: Aug 02, 2005
At 16:03 est., and Air France Airbus A340 overran Runway 23L by some 100 metres.
A press conference is scheduled to be held by the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA) at 18:00 hrs. at the GTAA"s Administration building located at 3111 Convair Drive (Renforth & 401).
Toronto Pearson International Airport remains operational. Prior to the overrun, the airport was under a ground stop program due to extreme weather conditions which resulted in the postponement of departing aircraft.
At this time, flights are still arriving.
The Transportation Safety Board has been alerted and is investigating.
The GTAA advises passengers to check with their airlines prior to coming to the airport.
The Airport Authority also advises travellers to check www.gtaa.com frequently for updates.
www.maps.google.co.uk/maps
and search for "toronto pearson airport".
Zoom in on 24L / Highway 401 and switch to sattelite view (button in top right hand corner of map).
Also, from Toronto airports authority:
Press Release
Date of Release: Aug 02, 2005
At 16:03 est., and Air France Airbus A340 overran Runway 23L by some 100 metres.
A press conference is scheduled to be held by the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA) at 18:00 hrs. at the GTAA"s Administration building located at 3111 Convair Drive (Renforth & 401).
Toronto Pearson International Airport remains operational. Prior to the overrun, the airport was under a ground stop program due to extreme weather conditions which resulted in the postponement of departing aircraft.
At this time, flights are still arriving.
The Transportation Safety Board has been alerted and is investigating.
The GTAA advises passengers to check with their airlines prior to coming to the airport.
The Airport Authority also advises travellers to check www.gtaa.com frequently for updates.
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CBC reports that pilot and pax taken to hospital. I just heard an interview of pax who says the aircraft made a hard landing and skidded down the runway. Sounds like most pax were evacuated.
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I am watching it on CNN and a few other news channels, initial reports are that everyone has been evacuated successfuly from the aircraft.
If that is the case and I dearly hope so, it has to be a case of sincere congratulations to the crew for getting everyone out!!!
If that is the case and I dearly hope so, it has to be a case of sincere congratulations to the crew for getting everyone out!!!
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Most major channels now streaming including BBC News .... some good analysis ... report is now that the aircraft was configured for 291 pax. How valid or not that is, I can't confirm ...
Praying that everyone has got out safe and sound.
Jordan
Praying that everyone has got out safe and sound.
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What does "A3003 RERA RMK TCU3AC3 " stand for... I fly in the Southern Hemisphere...
According to BBC "pax said that weather was really bad, lights went out...apparently everyone got out BEFORE the fire started"
EP
According to BBC "pax said that weather was really bad, lights went out...apparently everyone got out BEFORE the fire started"
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Now being reported on Sky, CNN & BBC that there are no fatalities. Everyone appears to have survived.
Thankfully, good news. It looked so bad when the story first broke.
My best wishes to all involved.
Thankfully, good news. It looked so bad when the story first broke.
My best wishes to all involved.
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If that is the case and I dearly hope so, it has to be a case of sincere congratulations to the crew for getting everyone out!!!
I suspect it's equally a case of sincere congratulations to the passengers for conducting an orderly and efficient evacuation.
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europilot,
What does "A3003 RERA RMK TCU3AC3 " stand for...
A3003 is the QNH 30.03 mmHg
RERA -> REcent RAin
RMK TCU3AC3 -> will pass this one, but seems to be some info regarding cloud type and coverage.
Salz
What does "A3003 RERA RMK TCU3AC3 " stand for...
A3003 is the QNH 30.03 mmHg
RERA -> REcent RAin
RMK TCU3AC3 -> will pass this one, but seems to be some info regarding cloud type and coverage.
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Newswire link has been updated - good news
No fatalities in Toronto airplane fire
Last Updated Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:06:48 EDT
CBC News
All 309 people aboard a jet that skidded off a runway and burst into flames at Pearson International Airport Tuesday survived the ordeal, according to fire officials on the scene.
There were 14 minor injuries, however.
The Air France jet burst into flames after skidding off a runway at Toronto's Pearson Airport Tuesday.
One passenger aboard the Air France Airbus A340, Roel Bramar, told CBC News that he saw lightning just as the plane landed in a torrential downpour at about 3:50 p.m.
"I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible," said Bramar, who was not injured and managed to scramble off the plane by means of an emergency chute. He was the second person off the plane, he said.
Flight 358 from Paris had been scheduled to arrive at Toronto at 3:35 p.m. EDT. Some reports said it landed safely, but then something went badly wrong.
The plane skidded off Runway 24 Left, an east-west runway laid out parallel to one of Toronto's busiest roads, Highway 401. It ended up in the Etobicoke Creek ravine, a small valley at the far west end of the airport, the aircraft's fuselage tipped down and its tail in the air.
"We had a hell of a roller-coaster going down the ravine," Bramar said. "All I could think of was 'Get off!'"
Rescue crews are still on the scene.
No fatalities in Toronto airplane fire
Last Updated Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:06:48 EDT
CBC News
All 309 people aboard a jet that skidded off a runway and burst into flames at Pearson International Airport Tuesday survived the ordeal, according to fire officials on the scene.
There were 14 minor injuries, however.
The Air France jet burst into flames after skidding off a runway at Toronto's Pearson Airport Tuesday.
One passenger aboard the Air France Airbus A340, Roel Bramar, told CBC News that he saw lightning just as the plane landed in a torrential downpour at about 3:50 p.m.
"I'm sure that the bad weather was responsible," said Bramar, who was not injured and managed to scramble off the plane by means of an emergency chute. He was the second person off the plane, he said.
Flight 358 from Paris had been scheduled to arrive at Toronto at 3:35 p.m. EDT. Some reports said it landed safely, but then something went badly wrong.
The plane skidded off Runway 24 Left, an east-west runway laid out parallel to one of Toronto's busiest roads, Highway 401. It ended up in the Etobicoke Creek ravine, a small valley at the far west end of the airport, the aircraft's fuselage tipped down and its tail in the air.
"We had a hell of a roller-coaster going down the ravine," Bramar said. "All I could think of was 'Get off!'"
Rescue crews are still on the scene.
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http://www.liveatc.net/.archive/cyyz...02-05-1600.mp3
3 mins in the controller realises what has happened and you here him telling other pilots. 5 mins in an aircraft declares a fuel emergency.
3 mins in the controller realises what has happened and you here him telling other pilots. 5 mins in an aircraft declares a fuel emergency.
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I have posted some links and pics at http://www.airdisaster.com/forums
From www.fboweb.com
Ground Spd: 152 kts
Map shows heavy rain near Toronto
Information as of 2137Z
FlightID: AFR358 (Commercial, Jet)
Status: ARRIVED 2007Z (on the 02nd at 2006Z).
Company: AIR FRANCE
Country: FRANCE
Radio Call: AIRFRANS
Ground Spd: 152 kts (Assigned: 005)
Altitude: 005(hundreds of feet) (Assigned: 350)
Type: H/A343/W ((Unknown Type))
Origin Apt: LFPG CHARLES DE GAULLE
Dest Apt: CYYZ LESTER B PEARSON INTL
Departed: 1115Z ETA As Filed: (unspecified)
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Ground Spd: 152 kts
Map shows heavy rain near Toronto
Information as of 2137Z
FlightID: AFR358 (Commercial, Jet)
Status: ARRIVED 2007Z (on the 02nd at 2006Z).
Company: AIR FRANCE
Country: FRANCE
Radio Call: AIRFRANS
Ground Spd: 152 kts (Assigned: 005)
Altitude: 005(hundreds of feet) (Assigned: 350)
Type: H/A343/W ((Unknown Type))
Origin Apt: LFPG CHARLES DE GAULLE
Dest Apt: CYYZ LESTER B PEARSON INTL
Departed: 1115Z ETA As Filed: (unspecified)
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BBC and CNN both now quoting 297 pax and 12 crew members.
Press conference stated aircraft overshot 24L by 200m.
From azworldairports.com:
RC
Press conference stated aircraft overshot 24L by 200m.
From azworldairports.com:
Airfield Data: 5 Runways, Fire Category 9
Emergency Services: AFF9
Navigational Aids: VOR/DME, NDB
Noise Restrictions: Night flight restriction program
Runway 1: Heading 06R/24L, 2,897m (9,504ft), 79/R/B/W/T, ICAO Cat. 3, Aircraft size max: B747-400, ILS, Lighting: Centreline
Runway 2: Heading 06L/24R, 2,743m (8,999ft), ICAO Cat. 1, No ILS, Lighting: Edge lighting only
Runway 3: Heading 15L/33R, 3,368m (11,049ft), 79/R/B/W/T/, ICAO Cat. 1, Aircraft size max: Code E (B747-400), No ILS, Lighting: Edge Lighting
Runway 4: Heading 15R/33L, 2,591m (8,500ft), 79/R/B/W/T, ICAO Cat. 1, Aircraft size max: B747-400, No ILS, Lighting: Edge Lighting
Runway 5: Heading 05/23, 3,389m (11,118ft), 79/R/B/W/T, Aircraft size max: Code E (B747-400), No ILS
Emergency Services: AFF9
Navigational Aids: VOR/DME, NDB
Noise Restrictions: Night flight restriction program
Runway 1: Heading 06R/24L, 2,897m (9,504ft), 79/R/B/W/T, ICAO Cat. 3, Aircraft size max: B747-400, ILS, Lighting: Centreline
Runway 2: Heading 06L/24R, 2,743m (8,999ft), ICAO Cat. 1, No ILS, Lighting: Edge lighting only
Runway 3: Heading 15L/33R, 3,368m (11,049ft), 79/R/B/W/T/, ICAO Cat. 1, Aircraft size max: Code E (B747-400), No ILS, Lighting: Edge Lighting
Runway 4: Heading 15R/33L, 2,591m (8,500ft), 79/R/B/W/T, ICAO Cat. 1, Aircraft size max: B747-400, No ILS, Lighting: Edge Lighting
Runway 5: Heading 05/23, 3,389m (11,118ft), 79/R/B/W/T, Aircraft size max: Code E (B747-400), No ILS
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Just confirmed from airport authority spokesman. No fatalities, 14 injuries.
Well done to all involved in evacuation.
Can someone confirm thisis the first major accident involving a A340.
Assymetric
Well done to all involved in evacuation.
Can someone confirm thisis the first major accident involving a A340.
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ALL PASSENGERS CAN CREWS ARE OK
ALL PAX and Crews are fine and taken to local hospital as stated from our local City TV news. Eveyone evacuated before the fire broke out at the tail section of the plane.
No Fatalities -- 14 Minor Injuries
Some survivors have been interviewed on CBC Radio -- people got out and ran as fast as fast as they could.
The satellite picture and radar showed fast moving CBs originating at Tobermory at tip of Bruce Peninsula and ending up as a line from Tobermory to Buffalo as of 1600 local. Amazingly very thin line at beginning 15 miles now broadened to 60 miles and INTENSE rainfall.
Extreme heavy rainfall driving home from a few miles South of YYZ on QEW. Pax on other flights kept in planes after landing because lightning strikes in vicinity require evacuation of ramp personnel.
Pax second to leave reports poor braking on runway followed by bumps and abrupt impact. Pilot came on PA to advise pax to remain in seats, but fire began in tail and he got out and ran as fast as he could.
Anoraks observing approach from East end saw nothing abnormal.
Press conference by Steve Shaw of GTAA: Overshot by 200m at 16:03 local time.
No fatalities -- 14 minor injuries
The satellite picture and radar showed fast moving CBs originating at Tobermory at tip of Bruce Peninsula and ending up as a line from Tobermory to Buffalo as of 1600 local. Amazingly very thin line at beginning 15 miles now broadened to 60 miles and INTENSE rainfall.
Extreme heavy rainfall driving home from a few miles South of YYZ on QEW. Pax on other flights kept in planes after landing because lightning strikes in vicinity require evacuation of ramp personnel.
Pax second to leave reports poor braking on runway followed by bumps and abrupt impact. Pilot came on PA to advise pax to remain in seats, but fire began in tail and he got out and ran as fast as he could.
Anoraks observing approach from East end saw nothing abnormal.
Press conference by Steve Shaw of GTAA: Overshot by 200m at 16:03 local time.
No fatalities -- 14 minor injuries