BMI loses another manager
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acbus 1,
I think you a clinging onto reality by your finger nails which you have probably nibbled down to the roots.
Freedom of speech.......I seem to remember that some of your replies to my posts doubted my sanity when I chose to stand up to you.
Antics and mindgames..... If you are whom I suspect you to be you want to spend more time on improving your chances of succeeding and less on having a go at your colleagues on this forum.
MP
I think you a clinging onto reality by your finger nails which you have probably nibbled down to the roots.
Freedom of speech.......I seem to remember that some of your replies to my posts doubted my sanity when I chose to stand up to you.
Antics and mindgames..... If you are whom I suspect you to be you want to spend more time on improving your chances of succeeding and less on having a go at your colleagues on this forum.
MP
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Even "badly done to, underpaid, undervalued,loyal, company minded fellows" like poor old acbus1 need to take a day off now and then to recharge their venom supply, guess he`s just worn out huffing and puffing all the hot air of late
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Come on fellas, give acbus1 a break - and lets face it, after many years of success bmi have lost the plot completely over recent times. As for long haul - bmi have left it to late, and you all know it, your operation at the moment is bit of a joke, bmi chop and change routes like theres no tommorow. Hardly a recipe for success.
As for management, acbus1 is right - you need people at the top who understand business and who can negotiate in the corporate world. ( dickie branson is a good example ).
As for management, acbus1 is right - you need people at the top who understand business and who can negotiate in the corporate world. ( dickie branson is a good example ).
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I think Sir M.Bs track record , bmi`s success and continuing survival speaks for itself. Despite the best efforts of "the world`s favourite airline" over the years to stifle bmi`s growth and various locos and new start ups bringing competition to the market we are still here and, if other threads on this site are to be believed will break even this year, which by any standard is a pretty impressive turnaround in just a year. The reason acbus 1 gets so much stick is that virtually all he ever posts are bitter and vitreolic attacks on a company that he may have once worked for(although in what capacity is open to debate!), anyone who wishes for the failure of a major UK airline with the attendant job losses that would cause among his fellow aviators deserves all the put downs that this individual attracts , in fact some of the more outlandish claims would probably be worthy of some editing by our esteemed Moderators in order to restore some sensible discussion between the professionals amongst us rather than the rants and raves we have been seeing lately from the disgruntled one!!
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This thread appears to have become a slanging match thanks to one poster.
I seem to remember that someone asked earlier on who'd left. Where have you been? Well one certain Base Captain. Nice chap. Liked his father too ( ducks under all the attacks ) but frankly whenever I spoke to him I felt like I was the only person in the world whose opinion counted at that moment. Nice!
Re the company. Well, I think that Sir M has told the illustrious Mr T save money at all costs barring front line staff. I've just heard that we don't have a Reservations department any more! That's why our F & F tickets were stopped.
Personally I think that the company will survive despite the predcitions of one doom merchant on this thread but things will change....that's guaranteed...always!
I seem to remember that someone asked earlier on who'd left. Where have you been? Well one certain Base Captain. Nice chap. Liked his father too ( ducks under all the attacks ) but frankly whenever I spoke to him I felt like I was the only person in the world whose opinion counted at that moment. Nice!
Re the company. Well, I think that Sir M has told the illustrious Mr T save money at all costs barring front line staff. I've just heard that we don't have a Reservations department any more! That's why our F & F tickets were stopped.
Personally I think that the company will survive despite the predcitions of one doom merchant on this thread but things will change....that's guaranteed...always!
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Acbus you do yourself no favours by "always" slating bmi. Try and redeem yourself.....somewhat, and say what is good about the company, cos if you dont , your posts will just be harping on about the same old moans and groans......and lets face it after a while they become boring !
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High bmi - I have very good friends at bmi and have flown with the airline many times and rate its service and staff highly. I have no doubt whatsoever that bmi will survive - for survival is in their nature !
But with all of bmi's experience and past success they really should be doing more than just "breaking even"
The industry has changed, for better or worse only time will tell, but one thing is certain - your competiters are leaving you standing !
But with all of bmi's experience and past success they really should be doing more than just "breaking even"
The industry has changed, for better or worse only time will tell, but one thing is certain - your competiters are leaving you standing !
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pitch - the word is that the company may be looking for about 10/12 fo's, depending on the outcome of the mumbai route appeal and from what i hear some of the pilots have already been selected from baby and the others from internal recommendations.
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Drap air
What you need to do is apply for one of the first officer positions. Work your way up to a command, show some willing and interest and ability. Then you will be able to apply for any management jobs that come up!
If you are enquiring about non-pilot management jobs, then you are in the wrong place to such an extent that i doubt you would be suitable for a management position.
What you need to do is apply for one of the first officer positions. Work your way up to a command, show some willing and interest and ability. Then you will be able to apply for any management jobs that come up!
If you are enquiring about non-pilot management jobs, then you are in the wrong place to such an extent that i doubt you would be suitable for a management position.
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Drap air,to correct Krystens suggestions I would suggest (in no particular order )become a free-mason,become a BALPA CC rep,finally sh*t on your fellow pilots/ back-stab /kiss-ass, until "they" notice you;seemed to work for 90% of the pilot-management in the past, should work for you too.
Just heard that BMI mainline is recruiting. A320 pilots.First Officers with low experience.
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I don't know the situation at BMI but would like to offer a general opinion on Mangers leaving that applies to both pilot managers and non-pilot.
Bear in mind that there are several teirs of management. The guys at the top (director level) make the policy, the middle and lower management have to apply and administrate that policy. If you dont agree with that policy or find that the way you wish to manage is continously frustrated by those at the top then the only way you can be a 'good' manager is to vote with your feet and find a job somewhere else. Either that or try to make the best of a bad job. You can only work within the company culture which is usually dictated from the top.
Im not saying this is the case at BMI but just wanted to stick up for a few 'managers' out there
Bear in mind that there are several teirs of management. The guys at the top (director level) make the policy, the middle and lower management have to apply and administrate that policy. If you dont agree with that policy or find that the way you wish to manage is continously frustrated by those at the top then the only way you can be a 'good' manager is to vote with your feet and find a job somewhere else. Either that or try to make the best of a bad job. You can only work within the company culture which is usually dictated from the top.
Im not saying this is the case at BMI but just wanted to stick up for a few 'managers' out there
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The trouble at BMI & BMI Baby is that they have lost directors, midlle managers and lower level management. From Austin Reid down.
Baby in particular has lots its MD, Flt Ops Director, Senior Training Captain, not to mention a large attrition rate of Captains.
Baby in particular has lots its MD, Flt Ops Director, Senior Training Captain, not to mention a large attrition rate of Captains.