BMI loses another manager
 

BMI loses another manager. I think that 4 have now departed from Baby.And 2 have left from mainline in past 12 months.

Wake up Mike!

5 from flight operations!

Pitch can I assume the latest is the man at EMA? IF so what a loss. Own goal again for the senior management team.

Yes I agree and yes SG

Any chance of this fellow's title so that we all might share the joke, or is this only open to those who speak in code? ;)

Given the lack of direction the company has, is the loss of any management a loss in real terms?

If my sums are correct, mainline has lost 12% of its pilots and 20% of flight ops management. Baby has lost a similar amount and 80% of its management team all within a very short time. It doesn't make good reading does it?

Maybe the managers who have left or are leaving have got it right.

Thats right pitch, and I hear that there are a lot more pilots to go and apparently bmi will be recruiting soon !

Why have they left recruitment so late? Maybe they're not going to?

Want an example of appalling management?

On the way home last night I was intrigued to see a Baby doing circuits at NEMA ... in the snow. If I wanted my three bump 'N' grinds to sign me off on type I'm damn sure I wouldn't want to do it in those conditions.

I have it on excellent authority that the schedule was held up out of NEMA yesterday because they had no F/O's and the poor guy was signed off and line checked last night whilst the PAX waited in ignorance. I guess that would be a delay due to 'operational complications'!

Talk about pressure!

So, if you're reading this hope it all went ok mate, rather you than me. :uhoh:

You dont get "signed off to line" after circuits, you only get the paperwork signed off so that you can take your licence down to CAA Gatwick and get the type stamped on it,you then have to fly 30 line sectors (minimum) and you may, if you are good enough pass a line check and then you are able to go fly with line Captains F,O,s,and thats with some restrictions. Please dont slag off the training dept,bmibaby dont cut corners on training ,take it from me ive just completed it.The training I have just had, was as good if not better than any ive experienced before and no, its not my first jet job.

I suppose he has gone to Virgin Atlantic, just like lot of the pilots.

Nitefiter

I wouldn't dream of slagging the training off I know what its like. I know many Baby and Regional pilots both Captains and F/O's. Indeed I made no mention of the quality of the training. I was merely making the point of the lack of management. I take your point that you don't go straight from circuits to being line checked. However there were delays in the schedule, presumably because the aircraft was otherwise occupied.

How about this as an example of bad management ?

MD arrives at 1300 everyday (he says he is not a morning person.)

MD spends next 2 hours checking his e-mails and to see when his new company car gets delivered.

MD takes away watercooler and makes everyone pay for their own bottled water in order to "illustrate cost saving measures".

MD has "business trip" (all first class) to another continent to see a major global sporting event.

I could go on..........

MD of which company?

Pitch
So what you are saying is that the management are leaders, but are leading everyone out of the door!

What I am saying is. BMI will always lose pilots but when the managers leave in there droves well what does that say?

I could be reading into this to deeply. Nough said.

Nitefiter.

Wrong again! baby do cut some corners on training as part of their grand master drive costs down at all costs master double secret master plan. maybe you just needed extra!

No your the one thats wrong,was through first time on everything and minimum sectors,

Hood

Perhaps you could expand on your assertion that baby cut corners on training? I would be very curious to know which corners you think have been cut.

I am reassured, though, that you accept that if anyone had needed extra training, (unlike nitefighter) they would have been given it.

Gixerman

One moment you are repeating comments you have on "excellent authority", the next post you are agreeing that those comments are clearly factually incorrect. Then you make facile presumptions that because someone is base training, this must be the cause of all the other delays going. Err or perhaps the fact that half the country was covered in snow may have delayed some flights?

Perhaps you could read through your posts in future, before hitting the "Post" button, to see if they make any sense at all! It's not the passengers who were "sitting in ignorance" mate, it's YOU!

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